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    I really liked Gentry. Just affirmed belief I think he will be a red zone threat and ahead of Grimble by end of season

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    Matakevich did impress - I'd like to see him play in Vince Williams spot as the Starter next week to see what he can do against #1's
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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    Snell was not as sharp last night as he has been at Latrobe. But that will get better. He's got NFL talent and will help us even this year in his rookie year. He didn't get to the edge much last night like he's been doing it at camp. Enough speed, decent hands runs with pads low n one cut n upfield. Pass pro is his weakest area n that should get better with more reps. Fourth rounder who imho will produce like a higher draft pick as the year plays out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    Matakevich did impress - I'd like to see him play in Vince Williams spot as the Starter next week to see what he can do against #1's
    Didn't we try that last year?

    I thought that we had determined that (1) TM is a great ST player (2) he can play inside in a pinch and (3) he doesn't have enough athleticism to be a guy you want in your D for long stretches.

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    I'm going to give my 2 cents on Bush. This rookies ability to trust what he sees n not overreact to counters n motion was what stood out to me. Early at camp he was taking some false steps , not being patient. Now he did a bunch of that at Michigan n made the tackles anyway just not at the los or for short gainers. He would be 5 or 6 yds down field making the plays but not like he could. As camp progressed he just began to be able to diagnose n then explode to the hole. Speed is there. Other nice feature he breaks down well , doesn't overrun the hole n he has been as advertised in that he is a real solid tackler. Pass coverage was what we have seen at Latrobe he transitions well n can undercut routes because of his speed. He like most backers will need to work on his hands because he's going to get his hands on a bunch of passes. Mike backer who can play all 3 downs well is huge for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    There were a couple times Snell almost made it to the second level but you are correct. He looked a little stiff.

    Who said he should start over Conner? Thatís crazy talk.

    I think Samuel may be the most complete back tho. I like his style.
    I think we could use our RB's similarly to how how our initial opponents up in NE deploy their RB's this season as well.

    James Conner and Sony Michel should be starters and get the vast majority of playing time on first and second down.

    Jaylen Samuels and James White should be pass catching options on third down.

    Rookies Benny Snell and Damien Harris should be able to fill in when starters Conner and Michel need a breather.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelerphile View Post
    After Snell was drafted there were some fans that said he was better than Conner, and should start. He was impressive at times at Kentucky but the NFL
    is a lot faster.
    Snell is an unproven rookie, Conner is a proven All-Pro.

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    Justin Layne On ĎRockyí Debut: ĎI See What I Need To Work Oní

    By Matthew Marczi
    Posted on August 10, 2019

    One thing that you have to give credit to rookie cornerback Justin Layne for is trying. The Pittsburgh Steelers third-round draft choice was dealing with an injury heading into the game, missing some practice time, and had to come out before the game to test himself to see if he could go.

    With Joe Haden and Steven Nelson resting and Artie Burns and Brian Allen sitting out with injuries, it came down to Layne and Cameron Sutton starting, and Layne logged a ton of snaps. Unfortunately, the total body of work was not the prettiest that you might expect to see.

    The two general themes that seemed to be pretty consistent in his performance throughout the game was a tendency to give too much of a cushion in coverage, routinely allowing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense to take whatís in front of them, and struggling to finish tackles. He missed two tackles on a pair of touchdowns, including on a screen pass on the opening drive.

    The Buccaneers saw throughout their opening drive that Layne was playing off and that he had been having issues closing and finishing the tackle, so itís no surprise that when they got down inside the nine-yard line, they ran the soft screen on his side. Once Kameron Kelly got picked off, the rookie cornerback was the only player with a shot at Chris Godwin, and he whiffed, allowing for an easy nine-yard score.

    He had several bad snaps throughout the day such as that, essentially looking like a rookie who has only been playing cornerback for a few years, which is exactly what he is. But he also had some bright spots, and considering the fact that he is coming off an injury, perhaps there should be some forgiveness in how he performed, and how he was used as well.

    Said the rookie after the game, ďit felt good. At first I started off a little rocky, but I feel like Iím getting a little bit comfortable. I mean, weíre gonna see. I see what I need to work on. I made some plays, but I also missed some plays. Thatís what the preseasonís forĒ.

    Despite his rookie woes, that should not mean much for the Steelersí secondary this year, as he is right now shaping up to be penciled in as the number six cornerback. Haden and Nelson will start, of course, with Mike Hilton in the slot, and Burns and Sutton are already battling for backup opportunities. This will be a redshirt year for Layne, and at this point itís hard to imagine anything else.

    Nevertheless, you want to see improvement from him as the games go on. Right now, heís likely to spend much of the year as a healthy scratch at the rate things are going, but thatís not necessarily a bad thing for his development. As he said, weíre gonna see.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/ju...ed-to-work-on/

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    Matakevich is fools gold. Looks good against lesser competition but is badly exposed by opposing DCs when it counts against starters. Too many other intriguing options to keep him.

    ..but I give him his dues on special teams.
    Last edited by NorthCoast; 08-10-2019 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    Didn't we try that last year?

    I thought that we had determined that (1) TM is a great ST player (2) he can play inside in a pinch and (3) he doesn't have enough athleticism to be a guy you want in your D for long stretches.
    Every year we hear this.

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