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    PIT-CLE Identical SB Odds!$#!

    Either the Steelers have badly fallen out of favor or the Browns have everyone absolutely snowed:

    AFC North betting preview and predictions
    C Jackson Cowart
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    BALTIMORE, MD - NOVEMBER 04: Lamar Jackson #8 of the Baltimore Ravens attempts to stiff-arm Mike Hilton #28 of the Pittsburgh Steelers during the second quarter at M&T Bank Stadium on November 4, 2018 in Baltimore, Maryland.
    The Cleveland Browns are good, the Pittsburgh Steelers are in transition, and Marvin Lewis is not the coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. What's going on in the AFC North?

    Arguably no division saw bigger turnover in the offseason than this one, with Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell leaving town and Odell Beckham Jr. joining the mix in Cleveland. The AFC North is one of just two divisions with a plus-money favorite (NFC North), and while bettors are fading the Browns as division winners, they're pounding them as Super Bowl contenders.

    Here are the best bets, value plays, and picks to avoid in the AFC North for 2019.

    (Over prices in parentheses)

    TEAM WIN TOTAL AFC NORTH ODDS SUPER BOWL ODDS
    Browns 9 (Even) 7-5 20-1
    Steelers 9 (-120) 7-5 20-1
    Ravens 8.5 (+120) 7-2 40-1
    Bengals 6 (+110) 20-1 100-1
    Odds courtesy of the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook

    Best bet
    Steelers under 9 wins (Even)

    Pittsburgh won nine games last year, then lost the core of what made the team so dangerous the past few seasons. However, bettors are still riding the over on the Steelers' win total and betting them to a tie atop the division at 7-5 odds.

    Brown and Bell are gone, and even the biggest fans of JuJu Smith-Schuster and James Conner can acknowledge the downgrade for a team that's relied on offensive firepower for years. The defense was average across the board last season, with a near-worst special teams unit. Is there any reason to expect improvement in 2019?

    Ben Roethlisberger led the league with a career-high 5,129 passing yards last year but owned a virtually identical touchdown and interception rate from his 2017 season, so it's hard to expect growth for the 37-year-old quarterback.

    Better chemistry is really the only selling point for improvement, and that's not enough to replace two All-Pro offensive talents and fix a leaky defense.

    Value play
    Ravens to make playoffs (+170)

    Baltimore won the division last season despite cobbling together a new offense halfway through the year to fit its rookie quarterback. Yet they're 2-1 to miss the playoffs entirely in 2019.

    This defense has some work to do after losing C.J. Mosley, Za'Darius Smith, Terrell Suggs, Brent Urban, and Eric Weddle this offseason. But Baltimore's dominant run on defense has often relied on savvy play-calling and creative blitz packages up front. Evidently, not much will change for defensive coordinator Wink Martindale thanks to secondary stalwarts Marlon Humphrey, Jimmy Smith, and new addition Earl Thomas on the back end.

    That's to say nothing of an offense that overwhelmed teams last year with historic rushing numbers and added two-time Pro Bowler Mark Ingram this summer. A full offseason should do wonders for offensive coordinator Greg Roman and second-year quarterback Lamar Jackson in a wide-open AFC North.

    The Ravens open 2019 with two cupcakes (Miami, Arizona) and end the year against five straight non-playoff teams from 2018. It's a risk, but there's real value here and on Baltimore's lengthy division odds.

    Bet to avoid
    Anything on the Browns

    Let's be honest here, we have no idea what's going to happen in Cleveland this year. Improvement feels imminent from last season's 7-8-1 record - especially after acquiring arguably the most talented receiver in football - but it's dangerous placing too much stock in a young team.

    Baker Mayfield may be a future star, but he also ranked 22nd in quarterback rating (55.7) in his 14-game debut and showed his youth with high INTs (14) and a low completion percentage (63.. The defense, littered with young stars, ranked 27th in Pro Football Focus' team grades in 2018, and Cleveland's special teams unit was 30th.

    It's also foolish to chase the market, which has already pummeled the Browns' odds into the ground to win the Super Bowl (20-1) and AFC (8-1). If you think Year 2 is the time to bet on Cleveland's storybook season, all the power to you. It's smarter to wait.

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    Was listening to radio today and they were saying how strange it is that everyone seems to think that the Steelers would have to "steal" the division from the Browns. This is still the Steelers and this is still the Browns.

    I find it funny, and annoying, how people start with "this was a nine win team last year" and then talk about the loss of Brown and Bell. I don't know if any one of these people realize this but Bell did not participate in any way on that nine win team and was nothing more than a distraction. His absence this year is a plus over last year. If they want to say that this was a 13 win team two years ago and has since lost those two guys then that is a legitimate comment. To say that Bell is a loss from last year's team that missed the playoffs is not accurate.

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    The sharps aren't buying the Browns hype.

    That said, the Steelers have a pretty brutal schedule.

    The Boz will need to win 1 or 2 games this season.

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    Browns looked fast and that defense has some monsters. Sure its preseason but our guys better come to play I'm thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    Was listening to radio today and they were saying how strange it is that everyone seems to think that the Steelers would have to "steal" the division from the Browns. This is still the Steelers and this is still the Browns.

    I find it funny, and annoying, how people start with "this was a nine win team last year" and then talk about the loss of Brown and Bell. I don't know if any one of these people realize this but Bell did not participate in any way on that nine win team and was nothing more than a distraction. His absence this year is a plus over last year. If they want to say that this was a 13 win team two years ago and has since lost those two guys then that is a legitimate comment. To say that Bell is a loss from last year's team that missed the playoffs is not accurate.
    I believe the off the field stuff by other players is generally ignored by players on the team. I don't believe that Bell was a distraction for the team. I don't believe that the loss of Bell is a positive. I think fans like to conveniently forget how good Bell was for the Steelers. Bell and Brown losses might be felt on the field.

    Only time will tell if the Steelers can compensate for the loss of great players.

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    the browns odds are based on hype and 'what ifs?' the steelers odds are based on actual play, underachieving the last several years and the loss of bell/brown.

    who knows how it will play out? guess that's why it's a gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlifter View Post
    the browns odds are based on hype and 'what ifs?' the steelers odds are based on actual play, underachieving the last several years and the loss of bell/brown.

    who knows how it will play out? guess that's why it's a gamble.
    I think we aren’t far from the “what if’s” without AB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    I believe the off the field stuff by other players is generally ignored by players on the team. I don't believe that Bell was a distraction for the team. I don't believe that the loss of Bell is a positive. I think fans like to conveniently forget how good Bell was for the Steelers. Bell and Brown losses might be felt on the field.

    Only time will tell if the Steelers can compensate for the loss of great players.
    He's saying that Bell is not a loss this year. Bell was a loss last year.

    We got zero out of him on the field all of last season and only distractions out of him off the field.

    In 2018, Bell the player was gone. In 2019, Bell the distraction is gone too.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Some of these reporters have no clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BURGH86STEEL View Post
    I believe the off the field stuff by other players is generally ignored by players on the team. I don't believe that Bell was a distraction for the team. I don't believe that the loss of Bell is a positive. I think fans like to conveniently forget how good Bell was for the Steelers. Bell and Brown losses might be felt on the field.

    Only time will tell if the Steelers can compensate for the loss of great players.

    Bell is an overrated RB. Glad he's gone. JuJu is gona be a better WR than AB ever wil be. AB's dealing with foot blisters already. They leave the Burgh and chyt starts to happen. Positive- they are both gone!
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