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    Hines Ward says you ‘can’t compare’ his stats to AB’s

    Ward says you ‘can’t compare’ his stats to AB’s

    By Hunter Homistek
    Posted on July 8, 2019

    Hines Ward retired from football after the 2011 season as the Steelers' all-time leader in receptions, yards and touchdowns. He still holds those records.

    And just as Ward's records live on in the Steel City, so does his appreciation for the city that gave him his start as a pro. Drafted in 1998 out of the University of Georgia, Ward quickly became a fan favorite for his tenacious style and gritty attitude — always, somehow, delivered with a smile.

    "I wasn't the biggest, I wasn't the fastest, but I worked my butt off," Ward recently told 247Sports in an interview. "Coming from a blue-collar city like Pittsburgh, I think fans could appreciate that."

    Ward went on to call the fan base "unreal ... like no other," saying he and his wife still travel to Pittsburgh frequently for charity work. To Ward, that matters. Pittsburgh didn't take him for granted and he's making sure to return the favor, even after football.

    "For me, [it's about] always representing the black and gold no matter where I'm at, all over the world," Ward said. "I just think I'm always going to have a special place in Pittsburgh because I bleed black and gold."

    It wasn't all smiles for Ward with the Steelers, of course. Throughout his tenure, the team won two Super Bowls — one in which Ward was named the game's MVP — but they also lost a third shot at the Lombardi Trophy, falling to the Packers, 31-25 in Super Bowl XLV. Reflecting on his career, Ward says that's the one that still stings the most. In fact, he's actively tried to erase it from his life.

    "When we lost to the Packers, I didn't want to watch television for about a month," Ward said. "All the Sports Illustrated commercials ... I didn't want [to] see any of that stuff. I don't have any of my Super Bowl memorabilia from that loss to the Packers [laughs]. I gave it all away to family and friends."

    While Ward maintains major receiving record for the Steelers, many — myself included — felt Antonio Brown was destined to snag them all. Brown was on pace to do just that — and then "Mr. Big Chest" happened. I don't think we need to go through that saga again.

    What we do need to address, however, is a comment Ward made regarding this dynamic. Even though Brown had the numbers, focusing solely on stats misses the point in his eyes.

    "Yes, we were a running team, I played with Jerome Bettis, we ran the ball 40-50 times a game," Ward said. "You can’t compare my stats to what Antonio Brown is doing right now. It’s not even comparable. But in the big games, when it mattered the most, I took great pride in being the go-to guy, being someone the team can lean on. I played like that, I learned that from [Lynn Swann] and [John Stallworth]."

    Ward repeatedly referred to his Steelers' squads as a "family," remarking upon chemistry both on and off the field. That aspect is certainly important to him, as he was quick to criticize last year's Steelers team when things began to unravel. Now, Ward maintains his overall point, but he's softened his stance just a touch.

    "I get it. Being a former player, I do get embarrassed talking about the drama more than the football itself," Ward said. "I understand the culture [in Pittsburgh], I’ve been there, I've played there 14 years. When you talked about Steelers football, it was never about off the field stuff. It was always about ‘Let’s prepare for the Pittsburgh Steelers because they’re gonna hit you in the mouth regardless, on offense and defense.’ That’s what it should be about.”

    https://www.dkpittsburghsports.com/2...n-steelers-hh/

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    I agree with Hines that you can't really compare his stats with AB. Different era. Different strategy.

    Stats aside, Ward created his share of drama as a player and at times throughout his career, I was getting tired of some of it. But it played out well and he retired a Steelers hero. One of the toughest SOBs to ever play the position.

    When you look back on it now, in comparison to AB, Hines Ward was a SAINT! LOL

    I would take the player Hines Ward over AB all day.
    Last edited by Eich; 07-09-2019 at 11:06 AM.

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    Ditto......
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Ward has something Brown will never have ... Super Bowl wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Ward has something Brown will never have ... Super Bowl wins.
    He also cared more about his teammates, Winning and being a Pittsburgh Steeler than AB will EVER feel about ANY team.

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    Let’s slow down a bit. Hines was awesome but he also threatened to hold out and called Ben out ON AIR for not playing due to an “injury”

    He also bashed Ben anytime he said he wanted a big target WR.

    I think if we dealt Hines to another team when he was at his worst we would probably be viewed much differently.

    Now granted he never said he wanted to move on from the Steelers publicly but man, Hines and Ben used to go at it and used the media that was available at the time to jab each other.

    Imagine if Hines has access to Twitter or Instagram when they were beefing?

    Hines is just lucky he wasn’t around for the 24/7 access we have these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Let’s slow down a bit. Hines was awesome but he also threatened to hold out and called Ben out ON AIR for not playing due to an “injury”

    He also bashed Ben anytime he said he wanted a big target WR.

    I think if we dealt Hines to another team when he was at his worst we would probably be viewed much differently.

    Now granted he never said he wanted to move on from the Steelers publicly but man, Hines and Ben used to go at it and used the media that was available at the time to jab each other.

    Imagine if Hines has access to Twitter or Instagram when they were beefing?

    Hines is just lucky he wasn’t around for the 24/7 access we have these days.
    From 12/2/2009
    PITTSBURGH -- Hines Ward's apology to Ben Roethlisberger was extended to the rest of the Pittsburgh Steelers on Wednesday. Pittsburgh's veteran receiver said at a team meeting that he regretted creating a distraction when he questioned why a concussion had kept Roethlisberger from playing against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday night, a game the struggling Steelers lost in overtime.

    "I apologized to the team for having to even answer questions about this. ... That was never my intention, I didn't want this to be a distraction," Ward said. "I should have just took the time and took the emotions out of it and just gave the politically correct answer."

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=4707191

    Hmmm, when's the last time AB did something like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STH70 View Post
    From 12/2/2009
    PITTSBURGH -- Hines Ward's apology to Ben Roethlisberger was extended to the rest of the Pittsburgh Steelers on Wednesday. Pittsburgh's veteran receiver said at a team meeting that he regretted creating a distraction when he questioned why a concussion had kept Roethlisberger from playing against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday night, a game the struggling Steelers lost in overtime.

    "I apologized to the team for having to even answer questions about this. ... That was never my intention, I didn't want this to be a distraction," Ward said. "I should have just took the time and took the emotions out of it and just gave the politically correct answer."

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=4707191

    Hmmm, when's the last time AB did something like this?
    When has a player ever called the media to question the toughness of their QB?

    He should’ve apologized.

    I’m a Hines fan but I’m not going to act like he didn’t show his diva side with Ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    When has a player ever called the media to question the toughness of their QB?

    He should’ve apologized.

    I’m a Hines fan but I’m not going to act like he didn’t show his diva side with Ben.
    If Hines had a "diva side" then AB is the Queen Bee. I don't care for a few of the things Ward did, but he's a choir boy next to Mr. Mayhem-like-me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Let’s slow down a bit.
    I don't think anyone started off too fast. I acknowledged in my first reply to this post that Hines had his share of drama. But it ended well and he retired a Steelers hero.

    It does not matter one bit that AB has access to twitter and Instagram. He was hell-bent on leaving the Steelers and decided to do it using bad (moronic, idiotic, unprofessional, child-like) behavior. He could have accomplished the same without twitter.

    Again, IMO, AB makes Hines Ward look like a Saint.

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