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    Steelers Dodged a Bullet....

    Reading this will surely make you thankful the Steelers not resigning Bell was probably one of the smartest moves the FO has made in the last 5 yrs:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...JHM?li=BBnbfcL

    One year in, Todd Gurley’s contract is already a disaster for the Rams

    When the Rams inked Todd Gurley to a long-term extension last July, NFL super agent Lee Steinberg penned a piece for Forbes analyzing the deal. The headline: Setting A New Precedent: Todd Gurley's Record NFL Contract.

    Steinberg predicted that Gurley's monstrous deal - a four-year, $60 million pact that included $45 million in guarantees - would reinvigorate the running back market. Not even 12 months later, we can safely say that won't be the case as Gurley's mysterious knee injury has the Rams already looking for other options at the running back position. NFL Media's Ian Rapaport went as far as to say that the 24-year-old's days of "being the straight-up, every-down bell cow are probably over." Rapaport added:

    "It's probably not going to be like that, which by the way is maybe why the Rams drafted a running back in the third round, someone they really like a lot. This is a team that is clearly ready to spread the ball around."

    So maybe Gurley's deal won't set a new precedent, but it should reinforce the prevailing notion that giving a running back a big-money deal is not the smartest way for a team to spend its cap dollars.

    That Gurley's prime could be coming to a premature end isn't the biggest shock - running backs age like milk - but even if he had remained healthy, the Rams would not be getting great value from this deal anyway. We've known for a while now that the passing game wins games, but the mounting evidence also shows that running backs have little control over the success of a team's running game. Offensive line play and play-calling that dictates how many players opposing defenses put in the run box play much larger roles, and the 2018 Rams were a prime example of that being the case.

    In November, Gurley was still appearing on lists of MVP candidates. Then he hurt his knee and C.J. Anderson took over the starting job. You may have expected Los Angeles' running game - one of the best in the league - to drop off considerably after replacing an elite back with a street free agent, but that isn't what happened. The Rams' running game kept chugging along thanks to excellent line play and Sean McVay's manipulation of defenses.

    Over the last month of the regular season, and into the playoffs when Gurley continued to lose snaps to Anderson after his return to the lineup, it became clear the Rams did not need Gurley to produce a good run game.

    The numbers back this up, too. We're obviously dealing with a smaller sample size here, but Anderson was a far more efficient runner than Gurley was in 2018. On Anderson runs, the Rams averaged 0.31 Expected Points Added, according to Sports Info Solutions. On Gurley's runs, the average dropped to 0.12. That was barely higher than the average for Malcolm Brown runs (0.10). In fact, Brown finished ahead of Gurley in percentage of run attempts that ended with a positive EPA - 60% to 53%. Anderson led the group with 76% of his handoffs resulting in a positive EPA. If traditional stats are more your speed, Gurley and Brown both finished the season averaging 4.9 yards per carry while Anderson averaged 7.0.

    In other words, the Rams' run game was effective no matter who had the ball in their hands. Behind that line and with that coach calling plays, a highly-paid running back is more of a luxury than a necessity. In a league with a hard salary cap, teams can't afford luxuries.

    The Rams may have realized this too late. They're now stuck with Gurley's contract for at least two more seasons after his 2020 salary and roster bonus became fully guaranteed in March. For the next two years, Gurley will cost them an average of $13.2 million against the cap. And if the team does decide to move on from him in 2021, it'll have to eat $8.4 million in dead cap in order to do so. That's a lot of money for a rotational piece at a position that doesn't move the needle for offenses.

    Los Angeles is already preparing for life after Gurley. The team used a Day 2 pick on Memphis RB Darrell Henderson, whose biggest strength also happens to be Gurley's biggest strength: Executing McVay's favored outside zone runs.


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    Thankfully, Bells ginormous ego and greed saved us from our own stupidity as we TRIED HARD to lock him up long term.
    At least we held firm on the guaranteed dough he wanted, EXACT THING that put the Rams in a bind.

    BTW, THIS IS WHY Bell wanted the guaranteed money.....because he knows this can happen. It in a weird way gives credence to his manipulation of the system and ensures he has no regrets no matter how bad the Jets are. I bag on his greed but on some level it is not as dumb as people think.

    Bell want to ensure he gets paid in this scenario, Steelers want to be off the hook to be able to use cap dollar elsewhere to remain competitive.

    Both parties had conflicting interests, Bell knew some other stupid team would give him more “guaranteed” money, even if it is a little less overall.

    As a fan my interest are with the team, but the Gurley outcome gives credence to the stand taken by both parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Thankfully, Bells ginormous ego and greed saved us from our own stupidity as we TRIED HARD to lock him up long term.
    At least we held firm on the guaranteed dough he wanted, EXACT THING that put the Rams in a bind.

    BTW, THIS IS WHY Bell wanted the guaranteed money.....because he knows this can happen. It in a weird way gives credence to his manipulation of the system and ensures he has no regrets no matter how bad the Jets are. I bag on his greed but on some level it is not as dumb as people think.

    Bell want to ensure he gets paid in this scenario, Steelers want to be off the hook to be able to use cap dollar elsewhere to remain competitive.

    Both parties had conflicting interests, Bell knew some other stupid team would give him more “guaranteed” money, even if it is a little less overall.

    As a fan my interest are with the team, but the Gurley outcome gives credence to the stand taken by both parties.
    Agree and disagree. I have much less animosity towards the way that Bell manipulated the system, seemingly at the Steelers expense. Bell was not under contract and had no obligation to sign the franchise tender. He has every right to hold out for whatever asinine contract some team will give him (even if it meant skipping a year), and the Steelers have every right to refuse to give him the amount that he was asking for. That's the free market, and he used it to his advantage.

    What I hated about the way he did his business was by constantly teasing the team and fans with is he coming, isn't he coming? and the nonsense negotiation rap tweets.

    Where I really applaud the organization is in standing strict to their principles. They were always willing to give him "game changer" money, as long as he was able to 1) stay healthy, 2) stay clean, and 3) remain the bell cow that he always claimed to be. A younger, previously healthier, better RB in Gurley is proving why that was the position that they had to stick to.

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    My goodness
    You people are obsessed over LB like you're his ex GF.

    Everyone knows RBs are a dime a dozen and high risks.
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
    Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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    Todd Gurley scored 21 TD's last year and he hurts a knee and people are talking about moving on. This is exactly why Bell was holding out for guaranteed money up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    Agree and disagree. I have much less animosity towards the way that Bell manipulated the system, seemingly at the Steelers expense. Bell was not under contract and had no obligation to sign the franchise tender. He has every right to hold out for whatever asinine contract some team will give him (even if it meant skipping a year), and the Steelers have every right to refuse to give him the amount that he was asking for. That's the free market, and he used it to his advantage.

    What I hated about the way he did his business was by constantly teasing the team and fans with is he coming, isn't he coming? and the nonsense negotiation rap tweets.

    Where I really applaud the organization is in standing strict to their principles. They were always willing to give him "game changer" money, as long as he was able to 1) stay healthy, 2) stay clean, and 3) remain the bell cow that he always claimed to be. A younger, previously healthier, better RB in Gurley is proving why that was the position that they had to stick to.
    However based on that philosophy you WOULD HAVE given Gurley his money.....a now proven mistake.
    As someone else said RBs are in fact easily replaceable and not the key cog in a championship in todays NFL.
    It is simply foolish to allocate elite dough to the position PERIOD.

    Bells underused Backup Blount has lead the SB in rushing THRICE on TWO teams. Heck give me cheap production.....I dont even need you to "stay clean".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wizard View Post
    Todd Gurley scored 21 TD's last year and he hurts a knee and people are talking about moving on. This is exactly why Bell was holding out for guaranteed money up front.
    AND why we would be IDIOTS to sign him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Thankfully, Bells ginormous ego and greed saved us from our own stupidity as we TRIED HARD to lock him up long term.
    At least we held firm on the guaranteed dough he wanted, EXACT THING that put the Rams in a bind.

    BTW, THIS IS WHY Bell wanted the guaranteed money.....because he knows this can happen. It in a weird way gives credence to his manipulation of the system and ensures he has no regrets no matter how bad the Jets are. I bag on his greed but on some level it is not as dumb as people think.

    Bell want to ensure he gets paid in this scenario, Steelers want to be off the hook to be able to use cap dollar elsewhere to remain competitive.

    Both parties had conflicting interests, Bell knew some other stupid team would give him more “guaranteed” money, even if it is a little less overall.

    As a fan my interest are with the team, but the Gurley outcome gives credence to the stand taken by both parties.
    Yep. It wasn't our decision not to sign Bell. It was Bell's.

    He saved us from ourselves.

    I am thankful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    However based on that philosophy you WOULD HAVE given Gurley his money.....a now proven mistake.
    As someone else said RBs are in fact easily replaceable and not the key cog in a championship in todays NFL.
    It is simply foolish to allocate elite dough to the position PERIOD.

    Bells underused Backup Blount has lead the SB in rushing THRICE on TWO teams. Heck give me cheap production.....I dont even need you to "stay clean".
    Actually, according to my philosophy, I would have given him his money as long as he stayed healthy (large salary, not high guaranteed money) like the Steelers offered Bell. You can pay the man as long as he produces, but you need the ability to let him go when that comes to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidSmythe View Post
    Everyone knows RBs are a dime a dozen and high risks.
    I came to that exact same conclusion too right after Jaylen Samuels racked up 172 total yards against the Patriots last season. Seems like you can plug just about any RB into the lineup and you’re gonna get production.

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