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    Is Artie Burns’ time in Pittsburgh coming to an end?

    Is Artie Burns’ time in Pittsburgh coming to an end?

    Posted by Charean Williams on June 4, 2019

    The Steelers already declined the fifth-year option on Artie Burns‘ rookie contract. Is the team thinking of moving on from the cornerback?

    Burns is due an $800,000 roster bonus on the first day of training camp, so these could be the final few days for Burns in Pittsburgh, Ed Bouchette of TheAthletic.com reports.

    The Steelers benched Burns and buried him on the depth chart last season. He started six games and played 308 snaps on offense and 190 on special teams in 2018.

    Steelers coach Mike Tomlin admitted in March he was “disappointed” in Burns, the 25th overall pick in 2016.

    “Certainly,” Tomlin said. “Having the ability to carry those talents into a stadium kind of defines us, or inability to do so, so certainly.”

    General Manager Kevin Colbert has said Burns lost his confidence. Can Burns get it back?

    It remains to be seen, but he is running out of time to do that with the Steelers. Another sign that Burns’ days in Pittsburgh were numbered came when the Steelers drafted cornerback Justin Layne in the third round.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ing-to-an-end/

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    The Nelson signing which was a bit off script for us is most telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron City Inc. View Post
    The Nelson signing which was a bit off script for us is most telling.
    I agree, as was the Day 2 selection of outside corner Justin Layne.

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    I think we keep Burns this year and let him go at the end of his contract.

    But, I won't be surprised if he gets cut either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    I think we keep Burns this year and let him go at the end of his contract.

    But, I won't be surprised if he gets cut either.
    I still say we trade him to the Raiders straight up for safety Karl Joseph (probably right before Burns' $800K roster bonus when training camp opens). Both of their 5th year options were declined, so they are not long for their current teams, especially after we signed CB Steven Nelson to a big money free agent deal then used an early pick on CB Justin Layne, while they signed S LaMarcus Joyner to a big money free agent deal then used an early pick on S Johnathan Abram. We need some safety depth after not drafting any this year, and they tend to like CB prospects who have backgrounds as track athletes as well. We obviously are comfortable trading with Oakland now, since we've made 3 separate trades with them within the last year or so (Martavis Bryant trade, Ryan Switzer trade, and Antonio Brown trade).
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    I still say we trade him to the Raiders straight up for safety Karl Joseph (probably right before Burns' $800K roster bonus when training camp opens). Both of their 5th year options were declined, so they are not long for their current teams, especially after we signed CB Steven Nelson to a big money free agent deal then used an early pick on CB Justin Layne, while they signed S LaMarcus Joyner to a big money free agent deal then used an early pick on S Johnathan Abram. We need some safety depth after not drafting any this year, and they tend to like CB prospects who have backgrounds as track athletes as well. We obviously are comfortable trading with Oakland now, since we've made 3 separate trades with them within the last year or so (Martavis Bryant trade, Ryan Switzer trade, and Antonio Brown trade).
    Hell yes! Bring in Karl Joseph for sure.


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    Next Two Weeks Could Be Critical For Artie Burns As He Looks To Make It To Latrobe

    By Matthew Marczi
    Posted on June 5, 2019

    The next two weeks are a potentially crucial time for the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 2016 first-round draft pick, cornerback Artie Burns. While it’s actually nothing new and something we have already written about, since it’s being recycled I thought it would be worth reminding.

    Like Chris Boswell, Burns has a bonus due toward the start of training camp, which is worth $800,000. Unless Boswell, that bonus has not been pushed back. So unless something changes, if he is on the roster in training camp, he is going to get that bonus money.

    That’s not nearly the ask of handing a kicker with the yips $2 million, which would have been the case for Boswell, but considering that the Steelers already went out and invested in the cornerback position this year—Burns will have a hard time even making the team, period—there’s a more than reasonable chance they won’t want to take a $800K chance on finding out if he can ‘bounce back’.

    The team has already decided not to pick up his fifth-year option. They already have starters in Joe Haden and Steven Nelson. Mike Hilton and Cameron Sutton are already ahead of him on the depth chart, and then there is rookie third-round pick Justin Layne, not to mention Brian Allen.

    If the extent of his contributions in 2019 is going to be as a jammer on the punt return team, then it’s going to be hard to justify carrying Burns. Of course they would like to have the opportunity to see what he can do, but at this point it’s a luxury.

    And perhaps one they would be better off not trying to afford. They could use that four fifths of a million dollars as part of their in-season cushion against the salary cap in the event of an emergency such as an injury.

    There are five practices between now and the start of training camp: the final two sessions of OTAs today and tomorrow, and then the three-day minicamp next week. Burns might have to really show up his ability and his improved confidence to sneak his way into training camp.

    With the roster bonus, Burns is projected to hold a salary cap hit of roughly $3 million this year, but nearly half of that is from prorated signing bonus money. His base salary is just over $950,000. They would save that minus displacement against the cap if they carry him into training camp and he doesn’t make the team. They could add another $800,000 on top of that if he is released before then.

    And considering that the Steelers currently only have roughly $1 million in salary cap space, that bonus figure is far from insignificant. If the situation were different and he were realistically competing for a starting job, things might be much different, but don’t be surprised if he is a ‘surprise’ release over the course of the next two months.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/06/ne...it-to-latrobe/

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    Artie Burns Ran 1st-Team Through Most Of OTAs With Joe Haden Not Practicing

    By Matthew Marczi
    Posted on June 11, 2019

    You may want to sit down for this, so even though you already read it in the title of the article, I’m going to conclude the opening sentence before the reveal. According to Ray Fittipaldo of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Pittsburgh Steelers have been using fourth-year cornerback Artie Burns in the first-team defense during OTAs while Joe Haden was not practicing.

    Burns, of course, started for the majority of his first two seasons, entering the lineup at midseason as a rookie in 2016 and then remaining there through all of the following year. Last season, he was demoted to rotational work with Coty Sensabaugh after two games, but was benched after six, and only played a handful of defensive snaps after that. There was one attempt to re-insert him into the starting lineup that was aborted within a few plays.

    In a recent chat session, Fittipaldo was asked about Burns’ status with it being widely talked about that he will be due a $800,000 roster bonus within the first few days of the start of training camp. Given that he is being viewed as fighting for perhaps a sixth and final spot at the cornerback position, there are those who rightfully wonder if the Steelers would pay that, given their cap situation, for the opportunity to see him compete.

    Fittipaldo wrote that not only have the Steelers not cut the former first-round pick, “he’s been with the first-team defense this spring because Joe Haden missed most of the OTAs”. This is actually a relatively significant development because last season, it was Cameron Sutton who was the next man up.

    He started in the Week Two game that Haden missed, for example, though of course Burns was still in the lineup at the time. But after he was benched and Sensabaugh was injured, Sutton came in to replace him.

    It would be interesting to see where he lined up, however, because Burns has played consistently on the right side during his career, and Haden starts on the left for the Steelers. Did Burns play on the left? Did Steven Nelson move to the left side to accommodate him?

    Outside of Sutton, Burns is the only other cornerback behind the starters that the team has with experience playing outside. Brian Allen, a third-year cornerback, has never gotten into a game on defense before, while Justin Layne is of course a rookie who only played three years of college ball at the position after being recruited, and playing, as a wide receiver.

    Burns certainly had a number of ugly miscues in coverage before he was benched—and even gave up a two-point play afterward—but the Steelers still expressed this offseason a willingness and eagerness to see him turn things around, which they chalked up largely to confidence.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/06/ar...ot-practicing/

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    Lipstick time at minicamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron City Inc. View Post
    Lipstick time at minicamp.

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