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Thread: 2019 - Steelers Best Value Pick in Draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittpete View Post
    I'm going to go with Justin Layne as my pick....
    I think this would be my guess too.

    It would be best for the team if it turns out to be true

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    Layne easily.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    LOL. I canít figure out yet if heís funny or annoying.
    After all these years Flippy, it's a question I STILL have about you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    Layne easily.
    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    I think this would be my guess too.

    It would be best for the team if it turns out to be true
    Truth here. I WANT it to be Layne.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 05-15-2019 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    Benny Snell thinks it will be Benny Snell playing Benny Snell football...
    RuthlessBurgher guesses that this would be Chadman's choice as well.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    After all these years Flippy, it's a question I STILL have about you,
    It's a message board. And we all have strong opinions about things we know very little about. Of course we're all annoying.

    And funny.

    So a little of both.

    Guess it all comes down to if we take ourselves seriously or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    Guess it all comes down to if we take ourselves seriously or not.
    Flippy's sig pic asks, "Why so serious?"
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Benny Snail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Benny Snail
    he runs at a Snell's pace...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    Finally, the guy I'm going to make the case for is Sutton Smith. And I think there's a little karma at play here. He's not directly linked to picks we received in the AB trade, however, I think it's fitting that we're going to find gold again in the 6th round where we picked arguably one of the best college football players in the draft. Another MAC player home run in the 6th round. The last small school player I remember watching leading up to the draft that got me excited like this kid was Hargrave a few years back. Sure, he plays against subpar competition, but Sutton is dominant at the point of attack. And you can watch him taking on guys that are 100 lbs heavier with what looks like ease. He's lightning quick, strong, and just has this knack for the game that few others do. The only big question I had is because of his size and competition, is he going to be over matched, but then this is a case where combine numbers give me confidence. Specifically his 3 cone which is better than an DE/OLB and his bench press which is near the top. He's fast and strong. By comparison, he did one fewer rep than Derwin Gray who's a T that would be the sized player he's going up against and Derwin's got him by 100 lbs easy. Sutton will probably run into a lot of TEs and he more than doubled the reps of Gentry. When I watch Smith, he jumps off the tv much like Bush. Those 2 are about the same size and have nearly identical athleticism. Bush is .2 faster in the 40, but Smith can just bench more reps and is just a tad quicker with his first step or change of direction. And Smith looks like he works at it because he always makes the right first step and his timing is impeccable. When both of these guys are such nearly identical athletes and there performances are off the charts when they're on the field, how does one go top 10 and the other just makes it into the 6th round? I don't really understand why players get picked where they do all the time, but that's why I'm thinking this is a value pick and Sutton has just as much chance to be an All Pro as Bush. But Sutton will have to seize every opportunity he gets because he won't be given the same opportunity being a 6th round pick. But I have no doubt the kid will put in the work to make it happen.
    Sutton Smith is indeed intriguing.

    Folks talk about how undersized he is to be an edge rusher at the next level, and that is probably true. If the team tried to keep him there, he might only ever be a situational edge rusher on defense (in addition to being a potential special teams dynamo).

    However, I would probably put him behind Mark Barron and ask him to learn from that guy. Barron made the position switch from college safety to pro LB, and although Smith's conversion from college DE to pro LB is different, I'm sure that Barron would be able to relate to the kid.

    At 6'0" 233 lbs., Sutton Smith is essentially the same size as Devin Bush (he's listed as 1 inch taller and 1 pound lighter, actually). Bush had a very good 3 cone time of 6.93, but Sutton Smith's 3 cone time of 6.75 is other worldly (there were only 5 guys better than him at the combine...3 of them were corners, 1 was a safety, and the other was a dual-threat QB. The purpose of the 3 cone drill is to evaluate the agility, quickness and fluidity of movement of players. A guy who can change direction that well, and was as productive as he was in college the last 2 years regardless of the level of competition (29.5 tackles for loss and 14 sacks in 2017, then 26.5 tackles for loss and 15 sacks in 2018) has a real chance to stick on a pro roster somewhere.

    While Devin Bush will be our every down ILB likely from day 1, I could see Sutton Smith being a ST demon as a rookie, and perhaps by year 3 or so (once Mark Barron has moved on), he could potentially take over on defense as a nickel/dime backer with the ability to blitz and make plays out there in space.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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