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Thread: 2019 Steelers by position: WR. Are we better off?

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    James Washington Admits He Felt Pressure Of Expectations, Following JuJu’s Footsteps, During Rookie Season

    By Matthew Marczi
    Posted on July 30, 2019

    While the Pittsburgh Steelers didn’t need him to be a starter—let alone a star—coming out of college, as a second-round pick serving as an encore to a very successful second-round pick at the same position a year earlier, James Washington felt the pressure of the expectations that came with his slotting and his environment.

    The Steelers entered the 2018 already very well-positioned at the wide receiver position, with Antonio Brown a perennial stud and then-second-year JuJu Smith-Schuster coming off a rookie season in which he emerged as the clear number two receiver with 58 receptions for 917 yards and seven touchdowns in 14 games played.

    In 2018, the pair combined for over 200 catches 2700 yards, and 22 touchdowns between them, quite a feat that isn’t regularly matched even in today’s high-octane NFL. To have two wide receivers that accomplished at the same time on the same team, working with a quarterback as good as the Steelers’ Ben Roethlisberger, is rare.

    And so Washington was brought in, for the long-term to have a major impact, but for the short-term just to serve as a complement to two true stars at the position. They would soak up most of the attention, and he would just have to take advantage of his spots. By and large, for most of his rookie season, he didn’t.

    The 23-year-old recently told Will Graves that he felt himself pressing “for sure” last season, pressing to perform and to live up to the expectations that he felt being set up for him, even from the fanbase who just saw Smith-Schuster come in and play like a veteran right away at 20 years old.

    “It wasn’t just me. It felt like coaches and fans and everybody, ‘oh, he’s got to do what JuJu did’”, Washington told the Associated Press scribe. “I’m like, ‘I’m not JuJu. You’ve got to realize that’. We’re two different people. You know. Some guys run faster than others and some learn slower than others. It just takes time”.

    Though even now Washington remains the elder individual between himself and Smith-Schuster, there is no debate as to who is further along in their development as an NFL wide receiver. A year separated from the draft and of the pressure cooker that is your rookie season, however, perhaps he can settle down into a more comfortable role.

    Not that that is going to make him understand the playbook any better, to run more precise routes, or to be in better physical condition. Washington didn’t struggle during his rookie season just because he felt the pressure of the moment. He struggled because he was behind and was never able to catch up by the end of the year.

    This year, once again, the demand for him to be a starter isn’t necessarily there. Brown is gone, but in comes Donte Moncrief, the veteran, and they have multiple slot options. The pressure to perform and to carry the team is not his burden.

    Now the pressure is not being left behind as others pass him as the forgotten second-round pick. And perhaps that will be the motivation that takes him to the level needed to live up to his potential.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/07/ja...rookie-season/
    I definitely thought Washington would look better than he did his rookie year. Hopefully it clicks this year.

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    Steelers Rookie WR Diontae Johnson Suffered Injured Hip In Friday Night Practice

    By Dave Bryan
    Posted on August 2, 2019

    The Pittsburgh Steelers just wrapped up their 2019 Friday Night Lights practice at Latrobe Memorial Stadium and after the session was over, head coach Mike Tomlin revealed that three players suffered injuries during the evening. Those three players were wide receiver Diontae Johnson (hip), inside linebacker Vince Williams (hamstring) and outside linebacker Anthony Chickillo (hamstring).

    “Diontae Johnson has got a hip that’s going to be evaluated,” Tomlin said of the team’s rookie wide receiver. “Vince Williams has got a hamstring that’s going to be evaluated. Chickillo, same thing. Happened late, don’t know a lot about those guys. Hopefully it’s day-to-day. Can’t afford to miss a lot of time, we’ve got a lot of work here in front of us as we start readying ourself to step into a stadium.”

    Williams and Chickillo are both veteran players so them missing future practice time due to injury obviously isn’t as a big of deal as Johnson missing time. Johnson has been reportedly working as the team’s second-string X wide receiver to date behind starter Donte Moncrief.

    If Chickillo is sidelined for an extended amount of time the Steelers might end up adding another outside linebacker to their roster as T.J. Watt is still on the team’s Active/PUP list with a hamstring injury. However, it’s worth noting that staring outside linebacker Bud Dupree reportedly practiced some Friday night after sitting out Thursday’s session.

    Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, center Maurkice Pouncey and tackle Alejandro Villanueva were just a few players that were given Friday night off. It rained Friday night in Latrobe and the wet football field probably played a big part in several veteran players being held out of practice.

    Sitting out injured Friday night were safety Sean Davis (finger), wide receiver Johnny Holton (hamstring), outside linebacker Sutton Smith (undisclosed) and Kameron Canaday (groin).

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/st...ight-practice/

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    Raiders' Brown to see foot specialist, source says

    Paul Gutierrez
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    NAPA, Calif. -- Antonio Brown, who has missed a significant portion of his first training camp with the Oakland Raiders, was scheduled to see a foot specialist Saturday, a source confirmed to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

    The injury is not believed to be long term, the source said.

    Brown, who began camp on the non-football injury due to what sources told ESPN were sore feet, participated in a pre-practice walk-through last Sunday and was limited in practice on Tuesday. That night, he posted a picture of the bottom of his feet that showed them blistering and peeling. The team was off Wednesday, and he was not seen on the practice field Thursday, Friday or Saturday.

    Raiders coach Jon Gruden acknowledged Friday he was getting frustrated with Brown, whom the team acquired in the offseason, not being available.

    "I think we're all disappointed," Gruden said. "We think he's disappointed. We'd like to get the party started. We'd like to get him out here. He's a big part of the team.

    "I want the guy out here as soon as possible. I'd like him to never leave and stay in the huddle every play. But life goes on and you've got to continue to work and the other guys got to take advantage of these opportunities, and so far, they have."

    Raiders quarterback Derek Carr said Saturday he anticipated the chemistry he built with Brown during the offseason would return as soon as the receiver came back to practice.

    "We wish that the healing process of whatever's going on be fast," Carr said. "We want it to be fast, but at the same time you can't rush things for training camp when you know you have a season and, hopefully, a playoff run to think about."

    Carr said he had not seen the picture of Brown's feet. When shown it after his media session, he recoiled.



    "We just know that when he does show up, we can't wait to welcome him with open arms, hopefully healthy and just ready to hit it running," Carr said. "We had so much time in the offseason, we spent a lot of time at my house, throwing. We spent hours upon hours throwing. So there is chemistry, there is development. I'm used to throwing him the ball, so it won't be brand new when he shows up. It will be just more on him, and the details of the routes, getting out and doing it and correcting it on film and going and fixing it the next day. Those kind of things. But besides that, the timing aspect, the meat and potatoes, so to speak, of what we need is there."

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...st-source-says

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    I"m taking Moncrief in the final rounds of my fantasy draft for sure. The upside could be WR2 numbers for sure.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    Raiders' Brown to see foot specialist, source says

    Paul Gutierrez
    ESPN Staff Writer

    NAPA, Calif. -- Antonio Brown, who has missed a significant portion of his first training camp with the Oakland Raiders, was scheduled to see a foot specialist Saturday, a source confirmed to ESPN's Adam Schefter.

    The injury is not believed to be long term, the source said.

    Brown, who began camp on the non-football injury due to what sources told ESPN were sore feet, participated in a pre-practice walk-through last Sunday and was limited in practice on Tuesday. That night, he posted a picture of the bottom of his feet that showed them blistering and peeling. The team was off Wednesday, and he was not seen on the practice field Thursday, Friday or Saturday.

    Raiders coach Jon Gruden acknowledged Friday he was getting frustrated with Brown, whom the team acquired in the offseason, not being available.

    "I think we're all disappointed," Gruden said. "We think he's disappointed. We'd like to get the party started. We'd like to get him out here. He's a big part of the team.

    "I want the guy out here as soon as possible. I'd like him to never leave and stay in the huddle every play. But life goes on and you've got to continue to work and the other guys got to take advantage of these opportunities, and so far, they have."

    Raiders quarterback Derek Carr said Saturday he anticipated the chemistry he built with Brown during the offseason would return as soon as the receiver came back to practice.

    "We wish that the healing process of whatever's going on be fast," Carr said. "We want it to be fast, but at the same time you can't rush things for training camp when you know you have a season and, hopefully, a playoff run to think about."

    Carr said he had not seen the picture of Brown's feet. When shown it after his media session, he recoiled.



    "We just know that when he does show up, we can't wait to welcome him with open arms, hopefully healthy and just ready to hit it running," Carr said. "We had so much time in the offseason, we spent a lot of time at my house, throwing. We spent hours upon hours throwing. So there is chemistry, there is development. I'm used to throwing him the ball, so it won't be brand new when he shows up. It will be just more on him, and the details of the routes, getting out and doing it and correcting it on film and going and fixing it the next day. Those kind of things. But besides that, the timing aspect, the meat and potatoes, so to speak, of what we need is there."

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...st-source-says
    A flesh eating bacteria would be Karma for Brown. Maybe not that but a good case of trench foot would be justified given his lies and lack of integrity
    Last edited by Oviedo; 08-05-2019 at 12:51 PM.

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    Ugh... I’m not a fan of feet. I didn’t need to see that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh wow View Post
    Ugh... I’m not a fan of feet. I didn’t need to see that
    Rex Ryan would love to see them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    Rex Ryan would love to see them...
    Haha that’s just wrong...funny but wrong

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    Setting The Record Straight On James Washington’s Speed

    By Daniel Valente
    Posted on August 5, 2019

    If you focus in on one specific target too hard, you will often miss all the background context. That has been the case with second year wide receiver James Washington and his speed or lack of speed to be more accurate.

    After Washington’s rookie season, the narrative surrounding Washington is that he lacks speed or any standout athleticism at all. The second year receiver has found his play style boxed in but a trip down memory lane should give a few reminders on Washington’s speed and the connection between top-end speed and elite receivers.

    While Washington is not going to be fool anyone as the next Mike Wallace or Randy Moss, it was not too long ago that the former Oklahoma State receiver was being praised for his speed. Lance Zierlein wrote the following about Washington in his pre-draft profile.

    “Washington is a top-heavy receiver with dangerous build-up speed who has a three-year history of hitting chunk plays thanks to his speed and ball tracking.”

    Zierlein was not kidding, as while Washington may not be a receiver who will beat you with his speed right off the line, his long speed has been talked about since his days at Oklahoma State. Let’s not forget that it was Washington who posted the fastest speed during one of the practice sessions during the 2018 Senior Bowl.

    Washington was not up against any slouches at the Senior Bowl either as he was among other speedsters as D.J. Chark (4.34) and Tre’Quan Smith (4.49). Washington posted pedestrian numbers during the 40-yard dash, running a 4.54 but it was not long ago that he was a Texas track star.

    In 2014, Washington was victorious in the 100 metre and 200 metre dash according to his track profile. And while he was not able to replicate the same success during the 2018 Scouting Combine, 40-yard dash times are not everything.

    Former Steelers’ receiver Antonio Brown posted a 4.47 time but that did not stop him from developing into a credible deep threat later in his career. Cincinnati Bengals receiver A.J. Green posted a 4.5 time and even the Steelers’ very own JuJu Smith-Schuster could only match Washington’s numbers, running a 4.54 in the 40-yard dash.

    If speed and athleticism were the sole indicators of a wide receiver’s future success then Al Davis’ Oakland Raiders would have won more than a handful of Super Bowls with Darrius Heyward-Bey and Jacoby Ford leading their offense. Last I checked that was not the case.

    Receivers get open with more than just speed, as technique and route running ability are probably more valuable to the position than anything else. Smith-Schuster and even the now retired Hines Ward were never the most athletic players on the field but that did not stop them from being successful.

    While Washington may never be a feared deep threat such as Wallace, his speed should not be overlooked. He may have struggled down the field as a rookie last season but a large portion of that was due to drops and concentration lapses. There is reason to believe that the Steelers’ receiver could come out a step faster as well. Washington has admitted to dropping from 225 lbs last season to 209 lbs, which will surely help him take the top off defenses if that is how the Steelers intend to use him.

    Narratives surrounding the second-year wide receiver’s speed rolled and peopled rolled with it, but now a slimmer and hopefully more polished Washington will have a chance to set the record straight this season.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/se...ingtons-speed/

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    Simms: Antonio Brown’s got frostbitten feet in a cryotherapy machine

    Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2019, 2:47 PM EDT

    Today’s edition of PFT Live featured an amusing (but obviously somewhat serious) anecdote regarding the inability of Raiders receiver Antonio Brown to practice due to what has been characterized as blisters on his feet.

    On Monday, PFT Live co-host Chris Simms said that the photos posted by Brown don’t reveal blisters but the peeling of layers of of skins from the bottom of his feet. Simms said that he once had a condition like that, thanks to what he called an “unidentified Buc fungus” in Tampa.

    After Monday’s show, Simms got word from someone with knowledge of the situation that Brown burned his feet by entering a cryotherapy machine without the proper footwear, and his feet were frostbitten.

    Brown’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, did not respond to a request for comment.

    The former Steeler started training camp on the non-football injury list. He exited NFI, practiced for a few days, and then was unable to practice. He has seen a specialist, and is regarded as day to day.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/06/simms-antonio-browns-got-frostbitten-feet-in-a-cryotherapy-machine/
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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