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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    You do realize outside of Brown, all of our WRs are in the 10s.

    10 - Switzer
    11- Moncrief
    13 - Washington
    17 - Rogers
    19 - Juju

    So currently 12, 16, 18 are available for Johnson, as are 14 and 15 in reality.

    That'd be weird having all WRs in the 10s.
    Rookie WR Dionate Johnson hints at what his jersey number might be with Steelers

    Based on a recent social media post by the young wide receiver, it appears that Diontae Johnson might be wearing number 18 this year

    By Simon Chester
    May 4, 2019, 5:32pm EDT

    While the Pittsburgh Steelers have yet to officially announce the jersey numbers their new draft class will wear in 2019, it would appear that we might have an idea of the digits that Diontae Johnson has in mind this season.

    The young rookie wide receiver posted a new picture of himself in a Steelers uniform on Friday wearing number 18, a jersey that would be available to him based on the team’s current allocations to their veteran players.

    Fitting nicely between Eli Rogers (17) and JuJu Smith-Schuster (19), he would be part of a receiver group that does not feature any wideout with a number in the 80’s this year if he goes with 18, joining Donte Moncrief (11) and Ryan Switzer (10) and James Washington (13) in that regard.

    With the exception of numbers 70 (Ernie Stautner) and 75 (Joe Greene), no other jersey numbers have been officially retired by the Steelers, but there are many that the team has not issued since they were worn by some of the more iconic players of their Super Bowl teams.

    As per Bob Labriola of Steelers.com, these numbers are:

    “There are a bunch of jersey numbers the Steelers just don’t issue anymore, and the numbers are the ones you would expect: No. 12, No. 32, No. 52, No. 58, and No. 59 from the 1970s, with No. 36, No. 43, and No. 86 from the more recent group of key players from Super Bowl teams.”

    And while Labriola notes that the need for enough numbers to cover all the wide receivers and tight ends has often led to the team being forced to use 82 and 88, the recent trend of younger players like Smith-Schuster, Washington and now Johnson all wanting numbers in the 10’s should mean they should be safe from allocation this year.

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/5/4/18529598/rookie-wr-dionate-johnson-hints-at-what-his-jersey-number-might-be-with-steelers-1-8-nfl-news
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    With rookie minicamp starting tomorrow, we should know pretty soon what the rookie draft pick numbers are. Any predictions?

    Bush is 55. We already know that.

    Diontae Johnson might get AB's old 84 because they were both MAC WR with return skills, but since the 5 WR's established WR's on our roster all have numbers in the teens (Switzer 10, Moncrief 11, Washington 13, Rogers 17, and Smith-Schuster 19), I think he gets a number in the teens as well (this has already been rumored but not yet confirmed). They have tried giving out Lloyd's old 95 to several LB over the years and it has not gone over well, so I don't necessarily want to give a rookie WR the burden of 84 right away.

    Prediction: 18

    Justin Layne might be a candidate to take Bell's old 26 back to the defense rather than give it to another RB (after all, before Le'Veon wore 26, it was CB Rod Woodson that made it famous, and CB Deshea Townsend wore it proudly after him as well). But I think they give this upside CB with length Ike Taylor's old 24 instead.

    Prediction: 24

    Benny Snell could easily be given Bell's old 26. After all, he wore 26 in college. And folks could then take their old Bell jerseys, sew an "SN" patch over the "B" and it would still be useful. However, the team might not want to burden this young kid with expectations like that. They might him his great-uncle Matt's number than he wore leading the Jets to victory in Super Bowl III (Although Namath gets the hype, Snell was much more vital cog to that upset victory than old Broadway Joe).

    Prediction: 41

    With all of the receivers in the teens, you could then use some of the open numbers in the 80's on your TE's. We don't want to give away Ward's 86, Swann's 88, or Stallworth's 82 if we don't have to. So we have Jesse James' 81 open (looked good on an overly-tall former Big Ten TE recently), but I think we give him 84 instead. Rather than putting pressure on a rookie WR by assigning him AB's old 84, we take that number away from the WR position entirely and give it back to the TE spot (it was Jerame Tuman's number before AB got it).

    Prediction: 84

    Sutton Smith and Ulysses Gilbert are our two 6th round LB's, and I prefer linebackers wear numbers in the 50's rather than the 40's. We aren't going to give out Webster's 52, Lambert's 58, or Ham's 59, so that leaves 54 and 51. Since Sutton Smith was 15 at NIU, I predict they just reverse his college number to give him Farrior's old 51, leaving 54 for Gilbert.

    Prediction: 51 for Smith, 54 for Gilbert

    I'd give Isaiah Buggs the last available number in the 90's right now. I like that better for DL than numbers in the 70's.

    Prediction: 96

    Gray has several options in the 60's and 70's open to him (68, 69, 70, 77). Since he wore a repeating digit number in college with 55, I think he follows that same path in the pros with 77.

    Prediction: 77
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Friday, May 10, 2019 09:00 AM

    Minicamp roster announced


    Teresa Varley

    Steelers.com


    Steelers’ players will take the field this weekend for the team’s rookie minicamp, the first time the new draft class and undrafted free agents will be together.


    The team will also be joined by some first-year players, as well as rookies who are there on a tryout basis.


    The Steelers will hold five practices over the three days, including two on Friday, two on Saturday and one on Sunday.


    The team’s rookie minicamp roster, which includes 60 players, is below. The numbers assigned to the players are subject to change, with only first-round pick Devin Bush’s No. 55 official.


    41 Askew-Henry, Dravon S 6-0 202 West Virginia
    8-Gold Berryman, Ian P 6-0 200 Western Carolina
    14 Blackmon, Antonio CB 6-0 195 Purdue
    39 Branch, Marcelis CB 5-11 180 Robert Morris
    68-O Brumfield, Garrett G 6-4 302 LSU
    96 Buggs, Isaiah G 6-4 302 Alabama
    55 Bush, Devin LB 5-11 234 Michigan
    8 Chryst, Keller QB 6-5 238 Tennessee
    64 Craig, Winston DT 6-4 291 Richmond
    81 Crawford, Nehari WR 5-11 175 Duquesne
    2 Davis, Ravon CB 5-10 178 Maryland
    51-O Desjarlais, Drew OG/OT 6-5 325 Windsor
    83 Gentry, Zach TE 6-8 265 Michigan
    56 Gibbons, Jesse OG/OT 6-5 300 Waterloo
    54-D Gilbert III, Ulysees LB 6-0 230 Akron
    65 Gilmore, Greg DT 6-4 311 LSU
    77 Gray, Derwin OT 6-4 320 Maryland
    15 Griffey, Trey WR 6-3 192 Arizona
    60 Hassenauer, J.C. C 6-2 295 Alabama
    68-D Hayes, Jay DE 6-5 270 Georgia
    16 Hodges, Devlin QB 6-1 210 Samford
    95 Hooks, Lavon DE 6-3 312 Mississippi
    20 Johnson, Cardon RB 5-10 181 James Madison
    18 Johnson, Diontae WR 5-10 183 Toledo
    74-O Johnson, Fred G 6-7 326 Florida
    40-D Jones, JT LB 6-3 245 Miami (Ohio)
    14 Jones, Tevin WR 6-2 225 Memphis
    3-O Julien-Grant, Kaion WR 6-2 208 St. Francis Xavier
    38 Kelly, Kameron DB 6-2 205 San Diego State
    31 Layne, Justin CB 6-2 192 Michigan State
    24 Locke, P.J. S 5-10 202 Texas
    55 Matthews, Ryker OT 6-6 309 BYU
    35 McMillian, Travon RB 6-0 209 Colorado
    21 McShane, Steve RB 5-8 185 Western Illinois
    72 Mondeaux, Henry DE 6-4 280 Oregon
    62 Morris, Patrick C 6-3 300 TCU
    42 Myres, Alexander CB 5-11 192 Houston
    69 Nelson, Chris DT 6-1 300 Texas
    45 Oplinger, Matthew LB 6-3 243 Yale
    61-O Prince, Damian OT 6-3 320 Maryland
    64-O Prince, R.J. OL 6-6 311 North Carolina
    87 Rader, Kevin TE 6-4 250 Youngstown State
    84 Richard, Milan TE 6-2 232 Clemson
    6 Roback, Brogan QB 6-3 215 Eastern Michigan
    74-D Sayles, Casey DT 6-3 289 Ohio
    46 Scales, Tegray LB 6-0 227 Indiana
    49-O Scotland-Williamson, Christian TE 6-9 274 Loughborough University
    61-D Sheehy, Conor DE 6-4 295 Wisconsin
    15 Skipper, Tuzar LB 6-3 246 Toledo
    51-D Smith, Sutton LB 6-0 233 Northern Illinois
    24-O Snell Jr., Benny RB 5-10 224 Kentucky
    82 Spencer, Diontae WR 5-8 163 McNeese State
    49-D Spillane, Robert LB 6-1 229 Western Michigan
    3 Tarpley, Arnold S 6-1 203 Vanderbilt
    54-O Wallace, Dwayne OG/OT 6-4 325 Kansas
    40-O Webb, Ralph RB 5-10 200 Vanderbilt
    80 White, Ka'Raun WR 6-1 205 West Virginia
    5 White, Matthew P/K 6-1 190 Monmouth (NJ)
    88 Wood, Trevor TE/LS 6-6 265 Texas A&M
    16-Gold Wright, Matthew K 6-0 179 Central Florida
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    The Pittsburgh Steelers 2019 rookie minicamp will get underway on Friday and the team has finally released the full roster of players that will participate in it.

    In total, 60 players will participate in this year’s Steelers rookie minicamp. 9 of those players are the team’s 2019 draft picks, linebacker Devin Bush, wide receiver Diontae Johnson, cornerback Justin Layne, running back Benny Snell Jr., tight end Zach Gentry, outside linebacker Sutton Smith, defensive lineman Isaiah Buggs, linebacker Ulysees Gilbert III, and tackle Derwin Gray.

    Additionally, the 11 undrafted free agents the Steelers have since signed will also participate and those players are safety Dravon Askew-Henry, punter Ian Berryman, guard Garrett Brumfield, defensive end Jay Hayes, guard Fred Johnson, running back Travon McMillan, cornerback Alexander Myres, defensive tackle Chris Nelson, tight end Trevor Wood, kicker Matthew Wright, and safety P.J. Locke III.

    It appears as though there are 18 rookies as tryout players this year:

    QB Ravon Davis – Maryland
    S Arnold Tarpley – Vanderbilt
    WR Kaion Julien-Grant – St. Francis Xavier
    K Matthew White – Monmouth
    QB Keller Chryst – Tennessee
    CB Antonio Blackmon – Purdue
    LB Tuzar Skipper – Toledo
    QB Devin Hodges – Sanford
    RB Cardon Johnson – James Madison
    RB Steve McShane – Western Illinois
    LB Matthew Oplinger – Yale
    G/T Drew Desjarlais – Windsor
    G/T Dwayne Wallace – Kansas
    T Ryker Matthews – BYU
    G/T Jesse Gibbon – Waterloo
    T Damian Prince – Maryland
    WR Nehan Crawford Duquesne
    TE Milan Richard – Clemson

    Below is a quick recap of the jersey numbers for this year’s draft class for the rookie minicamp and only Bush’s number has been made official and permanent by the team to date:

    55 Devin Bush
    18 Diontae Johnson
    31 Justin Layne
    24 Benny Snell Jr.
    83 Zach Gentry
    51 Sutton Smith
    96 Isaiah Buggs
    54 Ulysees Gilbert III
    77 Derwin Gray
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    I'm intrigued by the fact that we seem to be mining Canadian colleges for talent now.

    Guys in for tryouts this weekend from University of Windsor, University of Waterloo, St. Francis Xavier University...

    Turn over every stone, Colbert...
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Steelers set to sign three players invited for tryouts during rookie minicamp

    The Steelers invited 19 players for tryouts at their rookie minicamp and it would appear that three of them have now been offered contracts

    By Simon Chester
    May 13, 2019, 7:50am EDT

    While the signings have yet to be made official, it would appear that the Pittsburgh Steelers will be announcing some new additions to the roster on Monday. A trio of players selected from among the 19 names invited to take part in tryouts during rookie minicamp.

    As per two of the player’s own social media accounts on Sunday, both Samford quarterback Delvin Hodges and Toledo outside linebacker Tuzar Skipper have signed contracts with the Steelers.

    Officially signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers!!! Thankful for the opportunity! Thank you God!!
    #thankful pic.twitter.com/jcDipW6bjB
    — Devlin Hodges (@DevlinHodges10) May 13, 2019
    TODAY MY DREAM HAS COME TRUE! ALL PRAISE TO THE MOST HIGH! I AM OFFICIALLY A PITTSBURGH STEELER!#BlacknYellow
    — The Tuzar Skipper (@TuzarSkipper) May 12, 2019
    Former Oregon, New Orleans Saints and Kansas City Chiefs defensive lineman Henry Mondeaux is also expected to be added after a successful tryout, according to Jacob Klinger of Penn Live.

    Steelers signing tryout DT Henry Mondeaux, per source.
    — Jacob Klinger (@Jacob_Klinger_) May 12, 2019
    Ending his career as the all-time leader in passing yards in the FCS with 14,584, breaking a record previously held by Steve McNair, Hodges also recorded 111 touchdown passes and completed 69.1-percent of his passes during four years at Stamford. His addition likely signals the end of Brogan Roback’s time in Pittsburgh.

    This scouting report from Draft Diamonds pegged him as one of the hidden gems of the 2019 NFL Draft.

    The signing of Skipper will add yet another MAC player to the roster and a teammate of third-round draft pick Diontae Johnson last season as the Steelers return to Toledo for talent once again. A transfer from Monroe Junior College in 2016, Skipper record 60 tackles, 11.5 for loss and 8.5 sacks in his final season with the Rockets.

    A team captain with Oregon, Mondeaux was signed as an undrafted free agent by the Saints in 2018 and was waived during the final round of cuts ahead of the regular season. Re-signed to their practice squad towards the end of the year, he would join the Chiefs as a future signing after the season, but was let go the day before Kansas City began their rookie minicamp at the start of May.

    A scouting report coming out of college by Draft Analyst suggests a player who could offer Pittsburgh some flexibility up front, but one who figures to have a tough task making the final roster. He finished his college career with 11 tackles, 17 for a loss 10 sacks and two fumble recoveries.

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...odges-nfl-news
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Bob Labriola noted in today's Asked and Answered column that Mark Barron will be wearing 26, so I guess folks will have to add a "ARRON" patch to the "B" in "BELL" as opposed to adding an "SN" patch to the "ELL" in "BELL."

    Normally, linebackers need to have numbers, in the 50's, 90's, or 40's.

    Numbers in the 20's are reserved for DB's and RB's.

    His number was 26 with the Rams, but that was okay since he was originally drafted as a safety by Tampa (where he wore 23 and 24). I guess they never made him change his number after converting to a LB. You'd think they'd do it now that he's on a new team, but I guess not.

    I hope they end up giving Benny Snell his great uncle Matt's old 41 that he wore when he lead the Jets to victory in Super Bowl III (rather than Ike Taylor's old 24 that he's currently wearing in minicamp, which looks odd on a power RB to me). The minicamp numbers for all rookies, except for Bush's 55 are subject to change.

    Speaking of Benny Snell and Matt Snell, wouldn't it be awesome if we won another Super Bowl with Benny Snell on our roster, so there would be a Super Bowl winning RB named Snell on both the Jets and the Steelers, especially if that other RB named Bell gets no Super Bowl rings in his career playing for those same two teams...the Steelers and the Jets.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Mark Kaboly (Fat Boy)

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    A couple of number changes for the Steelers. Sutton Smith is now 42, Tuzar Skipper is now 51 and Zach Gentry is now 81

    May 22, 2019

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    The most recent Steeler to wear 55 before Devin Bush retired today.

    And, no, it wasn't Joey Porter.

    Arthur Moats.

    Arthur Moats announces his retirement

    Posted by Josh Alper on June 10, 2019, 3:32 PM EDT

    Veteran linebacker Arthur Moats says he has played his final snap.

    Moats announced his retirement on social media Monday with a post thanking the Bills, Steelers and fans of both teams for their support over the course of his career.

    Moats was a Bills sixth-round pick out of James Madison in 2010 and played four years for the team. He spent the next four years with the Steelers and signed with the Cardinals last year, but landed on injured reserve before the season started. He was released off I.R. in October, but never signed with another team.

    He ends his career with 228 tackles, 16.5 sacks and four forced fumbles.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/06/10/arthur-moats-announces-his-retirement
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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