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    Or maybe trade away some extra depth at OL, WR, or CB to upgrade depth options at TE or S.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron City Inc. View Post
    An O line with some depth. Team depth overall is solid. An area where perhaps that depth could lead to a trade prior to the pre-season ending. Be nice for a change where we pick up an extra draft pick ( even a late selection) at the end of camp instead of trading one away because we're thin somewhere.
    True..........but it never hurts to have a lot of O-line depth. It's interesting. If we can get through camp with no injuries in that line then it's definitely something to ponder.
    From the 2010-2019 season, (An 9 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. So why delay the inevitable?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    True..........but it never hurts to have a lot of O-line depth. It's interesting. If we can get through camp with no injuries in that line then it's definitely something to ponder.
    True. I love me some D DeCastro…….but he is known to take a teammate out all by himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    True. I love me some D DeCastro…….but he is known to take a teammate out all by himself.
    Ha! Hopefully not this year. Because we are running the rock strong this year. By hook or crook.
    From the 2010-2019 season, (An 9 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. So why delay the inevitable?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron City Inc. View Post
    An O line with some depth. Team depth overall is solid. An area where perhaps that depth could lead to a trade prior to the pre-season ending. Be nice for a change where we pick up an extra draft pick ( even a late selection) at the end of camp instead of trading one away because we're thin somewhere.
    Not sure we trade guys who have already started or been key back ups, e.g. Finney. Not sure there is trade value for the other guys who haven't made team before and other teams know will likely need to be cut or stashed on the practice squad.

    With the number of "potentially" good offensive linemen we have, likely the only way we keep them is a training camp "IR worthy" injury

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Not sure we trade guys who have already started or been key back ups, e.g. Finney. Not sure there is trade value for the other guys who haven't made team before and other teams know will likely need to be cut or stashed on the practice squad.

    With the number of "potentially" good offensive linemen we have, likely the only way we keep them is a training camp "IR worthy" injury
    Having too many good O-lineman? That's like having too much good ice cream.
    From the 2010-2019 season, (An 9 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. So why delay the inevitable?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Coaches asking OL Fred Johnson to go rep after rep in OL/DL. Doing well. Look well conditioned. Maintaining physicality.

    Tempers flare between Fred Johnson and Anthony Chickillo. Johnson drove Chick to ground. Jaw as teammates separate them.


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    Tomlin seems to have an extra eye on Johnson in camp too. I've heard him shout "Freddie" a few times and not ever in a disappointing tone.
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    Steelers rookie 'Big Gainesville' making big gains in first NFL training camp

    RAY FITTIPALDO
    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    AUG 7, 2019

    Steelers coach Mike Tomlin has a nickname for just about everyone during training camp. Rookie quarterback Devlin Hodges, for example, is “Duck Dynasty.” Fred Johnson, the 6-foot-7, 326-pound offensive lineman from the University of Florida, is “Big Gainesville.”

    In summers past there was “Nightmare” and “Bell Biv DeVoe,” the off-the-cuff monikers for running backs Terrell Watson and Brandon Brown-Dukes. “Dirty Red” is Tyler Matakevich. That one has had staying power because the former seventh-round pick is entering his fourth NFL season.

    “You know how it is,” Tomlin said. “It is easier sometimes to call them a nickname.”

    Johnson laughed Tuesday when informed of Tomlin’s nickname for him. Even though Tomlin calls it out often when Johnson is about to take a rep in one-on-one drills against the defensive linemen, Johnson said he was oblivious to it.

    “I don’t even hear it, I’m so locked in,” he said. “I don’t know where that nickname came from. But if people started calling me that, I wouldn’t be mad.”

    Whether any of the nicknames for the rookies stick largely depends on whether they make it onto the 53-man roster or practice squad. The Steelers are stocked with quality offensive linemen, but “Big Gainesville” is making big gains during his first NFL camp.

    Offensive linemen of Johnson’s size usually end up as tackles. Many NFL teams shy away from tall guards for a variety of reasons. Guards have to play with great leverage because their job requires them to uproot heavy interior defensive linemen. It’s much more difficult for taller linemen to play with leverage on a consistent basis. There is also the matter of tall linemen impeding the vision of the quarterback, which is less of an issue for the Steelers because Ben Roethlisberger is 6-5 and doesn’t have that issue.

    The Steelers, in fact, originally signed Johnson as a tackle and played him there when he first arrived in the spring. But he’s settled in at guard and has showed off his skill set. He’s smooth in pass protection and has shown an ability to win one-on-one battles with consistency.

    On Tuesday, when several starting offensive linemen went down with injuries, Johnson played guard and tackle. For offensive linemen that are hoping to make the roster or practice squad as reserves, the ability to play two positions is a must because teams usually only dress seven or eight linemen on game days. Centers have to be able to play guard. Guards have to be able to play tackle. Tackles have to be able to play tight end.

    “We’ve got a lot of young guys who are vying for roles and part of that is to make yourself versatile,” Tomlin said. “We’ve got tackles playing the left side and the right side. We have tackles playing guard and tackle. Versatility is big for situations such as that. We call on guys to show what they are capable of. It is no different than game day for us. Those two or three backups have to have some versatility.”

    Johnson has looked so comfortable and confident that it makes one wonder how he went undrafted. Most NFL draft analysts thought he would be drafted somewhere in the later rounds. When his name wasn’t called, Johnson signed with the Steelers, who have a strong history of developing undrafted free agents. More than half their starters on the line entered the league as undrafted free agents.

    “I thought I would go somewhere around the fifth round or after,” Johnson said. “I can’t dwell on that now. It’s in the past. In college I wasn’t a top recruit. We had a Number 1 lineman. There was stuff that could have deterred me from going there. But I went there anyway and made a name for myself. Now I have to do the same thing here. I like being the underdog. I like having to work for stuff so I can say I earned it.

    “Some things in life you can’t control. You have to play the cards you’re dealt. That’s one thing that motivated me to come out here and decide where I wanted to go. The opportunity is in front of me. Now I just have to go get it.”

    https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...s/201908070103

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