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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    Word is that the Colts have no interest in resigning Eric Ebron because he shut himself down due to an ankle injury knowing he was an upcoming FA. I liked him coming out of college and still like what he offers.
    He's likely going to be asking north of 7 million/year ... too rich for the Steelers' blood with current money situation.
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    2-17 -- Lloyd Cushenberry, C/G, LSU
    3-38 -- Cam Akers, RB, FSU
    4-18 -- Ben Bartch, G/T, St. John's
    4-29 -- Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU
    6-19 -- Trevon Hill, Edge, Miami
    7-18 -- Juwuan Jones, DL, Western Kentucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    He's likely going to be asking north of 7 million/year ... too rich for the Steelers' blood with current money situation.
    Yup. Gotta go with our scrubs and a draft pick for a year or two.
    In the last decade, 25% of the league has won a super bowl(the Steelers aren't one of them) and 25% have as many or more playoff wins as the Steelers.

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    Steelers 2020 Free Agent Market Watch: The Tight Ends

    BTSC takes a look at the top free agents at each position whether or not they are in the Steelers price range. Here are the Tight Ends.

    By Bryan Anthony Davis
    Feb 14, 2020

    Disclaimer: The author realizes that the team is burning in Salary Cap Hell and canít pony up much money for free agents. However, you never know what they have planned and itís the authorís responsibility to highlight the free agent options. Itís like the lyric in The Rolling Stones song, ďYou Canít Always Get What You WantĒ... But if you try sometimes, you get what you need.

    The Steelers have am uncertain situation when it comes to the position of tight end. Nick Vannett is a free agent, Zach Gentry was drafted as a project and didnít contribute his rookie year and Vance McDonald did not perform well last year and is frequently injured. Does a Ben Roethlisberger return mean a better showing by the Vanimal or has that ship sailed? Do they draft one? Do they try to drum up money to bring in one through free agency? As unlikey as the prospect is, Kevin Colbert could get lucky under the couch cushions. Here the list of available free agents should the Steelers find themselves able to shop come March.

    Austin Hooper - Atlanta Falcons
    2019 Receiving - 13 games, 75 receptions, 787 yards, 6 touchdowns

    Hooper is definitely the prize of the free agent pool as far as the TE position goes. The second-leading receiver last year for the pass-happy Falcons, The 6í4Ē and 254-pound Hooper is also a vey sure-handed receiver that has improved every year since having been drafted in the third round out of Stanford in 2016.

    Hunter Henry - Los Angeles Chargers
    2019 Receiving - 12 games, 55 receptions, 652 yards, 5 touchdowns

    The last time the Steelers landed a Tight End in free agency from the Chargers, it was an injury disaster. But Ladarius Green didnít have as many red health flags as Hunter Henry. Henry could be in the Kelce/Kittle conversation, but his missing 20 games the previous two seasons is a huge concern. A team is going to either have to take a huge leap of faith and hope he stays football healthy or get him at a bargain price.

    Blake Jarwin - Dallas Cowboys
    2019 Receiving - 16 games, 31 receptions, 365 yards, 3 touchdowns

    Jarwin could be a fabulous, free agent bargain. At 26, he has exhibited plenty signs of promise and would fit it nicely in Pittsburgh, should they find the funds. The stats shouldnít be a huge concern, as Jarwin split time with Jason Witten in 2020. The 2017 Undrafted Free Agent started seven games last year, but sources around the league think he can be a full-time starter in the NFL.

    Eric Ebron - Indianapolis Colts
    2019 Receiving - 11 games, 31 receptions, 375 yards, 3 touchdown

    Ebron had a phenomenal 2018, but his career has been largely one of disappointment and underachievement. Heís high on athletic talent, but has been suspect with route-running and dropped balls over the course of his career with Detroit and Indy. However, being paired with another veteran QB (13 TDs with Luck in Ď1 like Roethlisberger could greatly improve his fortune and productivity. He may come on the cheap as well.

    Greg Olsen - Carolina Panthers
    2019 Receiving - 14 games, 52 receptions, 597 yards, 2 touchdowns

    Olsen is no longer what he once was in this league. However, he was very productive at age 34 last year. A team on the precipice of a championship should consider Olsen. He has the skill and the experience to help deliver a ring.

    Other Notable Free Agent Tight Ends
    Jacob Hollister - Seattle Seahawks (RFA)

    Nick Vannett - Pittsburgh Steelers

    Tyler Eifert - Cincinnati Bengals

    Charles Clay - Arizona Cardinals

    Dan Arnold - Arizona Cardinals (RFA)

    Ricky Seals-Jones - Cleveland Browns (RFA)

    Nick OíLeary - Jacksonville Jaguars

    Seth DeValve - Jacksonville Jaguars

    Blake Bell - Kansas City Chiefs

    Luke Willson - Seattle Seahawks

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    TE Zach Gentry: ‘I Am Going To Be In The Weight Room All Offseason Working’

    ByDave BryanPosted on February 20, 2020 at 6:34 pm


    Pittsburgh Steelers tight end Zach Gentry didn’t play much during his 2019 rookie season as the fifth-round draft pick out of Michigan logged just under 50 total offensive snaps in the four games that he dressed and played in. Because of his limited usage, Gentry, a college quarterback-turned-tight end, now enters the 2020 league year as perhaps one of the biggest offensive carryover unknowns on the roster.

    Gentry obviously isn’t taking for granted that he’s a lock to make the 2020 Steelers roster and that’s being demonstrated by him staying close to Pittsburgh this offseason in an effort to work on the little things he needs to improve on of which one of them is his overall strength.

    “I am going to be in the weight room all offseason working,” said Gentry, according to a recent interview with him posted on steelers.com. “I want to make sure I continue to get stronger. I want to work on flexibility to make sure I can bend my hips and stay lower to the ground.

    “It’s a no brainer for me to stay here. I can work with the conditioning staff, I can have the training staff here, everything I need I have here. I don’t see a point in leaving. It’s a new home so I am glad I am staying here.”

    Gentry getting stronger this offseason and becoming a better blocker is a must as those deficiencies in his overall game showed up quite easily in his limited offensive snaps played during his 2019 rookie season and especially earlier in the season as I highlighted in the previous post linked to above.

    While Gentry might not have had a lot of in-game opportunities to show his overall in-season development during the second half of his rookie year, he indicated in his recent interview with the Steelers official website that he did learn a lot from his teammates and especially from veteran tight end Vance McDonald.

    “He helped me out a ton. I call him dad,” said Gentry of McDonald. “He knows so much, knows the offense, he knows about the day to day life. I really appreciate him.

    “With him it was small things you might not notice, like on the first step of a cutoff block making sure you get off really quick, something you might not think about. Little things that resonated in my mind, made me a better ball player and I am really thankful for that.”

    Currently, McDonald and Gentry are the only two tight ends that ended the 2019 season on the Steelers 53-man roster that are under contract for the 2020 season. We’ll know within a month if McDonald’s 2020 option will indeed be picked up. We’ll also know within a month and a half if the other tight end that ended the 2019 season on the Steelers 53-man roster, Nick Vannett, will be back in the fold to compete for a roster spot in training camp later this summer.

    While Gentry is a lock to make it to training camp this summer, he could have yet another young tight end to compete against while at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe if the team spends one of their currently scheduled six draft picks on one like many of us expect them to do. Even if that happens, that prospective young tight end will have to go through what Gentry went through a year ago and that process is one the second-year tight end is glad he doesn’t have to go through this offseason.

    “A rookie year is challenging, but it’s what we all signed up for,” said Gentry. “It’s a lot going from the last season of college football, right into combine training, then preparing for the NFL Draft and the season. You have a 20-game season with the preseason. It’s challenging but rewarding at the same time.

    “I am excited for this offseason. I can’t wait to work and not have to worry about a hand-held time in the 40-yard dash. I can’t wait to know what is in front of me. I can’t wait for my second season to come and know what I need to work on and just go for it.”

    After the Steelers drafted Gentry last year, I did a full contextualization of all his 2018 pass targets at Michigan and the link to that post is below. Gentry posted some fine numbers in his 2018 season at Michigan as the underclassman’s average target depth was just under 10 yards at 9.96 yards. The average depth of Gentry’s 32 receptions in 2018 was 11.09 yards, which is a very strong number. Gentry also averaged 3.53 yards after the catch in 2018, another healthy number.

    Could the Steelers be more optimistic about Gentry than most of us on the outside are? We’ll see sooner rather than later as we’ll have our answer to that question right after the 2020 NFL Draft has concluded in late April. In the meantime, however, Gentry is planning on controlling what he can control and that’s him working on getting better this offseason in his attempt to make the 53-man roster.

    “It’s a numbers game,” Gentry said. “At the end of the day it is what it is. I am setting myself up to be more of a role and a factor next season.”
    From the 2010-2019 season, (A 9 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks.

    WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. So why delay the inevitable?

    Dolphin fans in the 90ís who wanted to hold on to Don Shula for what he did in the 70ís...

    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2020 ) holding on to Tomlin for what he did in 2008.

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    I am starting to think that our TE in 2020 will be the same!

    And I hate the thought of McDonald being our #1 TE again.

    Colbert sounded like he endorses McDonald, who is a cheaper and just as good option compared to the FA TEs. He also endorsed the trade for Vanett, who we gave up a 5th for him. You don't really trade picks for rent a players. And sounds like they had talks or were interested in acquiring him for a while.

    Lacking FA money, using the draft is the best way to improve. I think those resources ( only 6 draft picks, 1 in top 100) are better used in adding:

    2 play makers ( WR/RB)
    2 OL ( Tackle and IOL)
    2 on D ( need depth every where excpet CB, and need a NT)
    ďIím so tired of LeíVeon," DeCastro told reporters (h/t ESPN's Jeremy Fowler ([url]https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1038909446146203649[/url])) after Sunday's game. "Iím so tired of it. Letís just worry about the guys in here. I know you guys have stories to write and what not. I love LeíVeon, but we gotta worry about the guys in here. Theyíre the only people that matter to me."



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    That’s why I think all this talk about taking a TE in the draft in the 2nd or 3rd rounds is really just wishful thinking.

    It’s not that high on Colbert’s priority list.
    From the 2010-2019 season, (A 9 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks.

    WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. So why delay the inevitable?

    Dolphin fans in the 90ís who wanted to hold on to Don Shula for what he did in the 70ís...

    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2020 ) holding on to Tomlin for what he did in 2008.

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    NFL.com Analyst Tabs TE Hunter Henry As Best Free Agent Fit For Steelers
    ByDave BryanPosted on February 20, 2020 at 7:48 pm


    NFL free agency officially begins on Wednesday, March 18 and already there’s heavy speculation and suggestions floating around about every NFL team and which free agents each should or likely will have interest in. On Thursday, Marc Sessler of NFL.com joined the free agency frenzy fray by suggesting one free agent fit for each AFC team. Sessler suggested Los Angeles Chargers tight end Hunter Henry for the Pittsburgh Steelers and below is his reasoning for doing so.

    With Ben Roethlisberger teed up for a healthy return, the Steelers must focus on surrounding their big-bodied flinger with new weapons. Henry has yet to experience a true breakout campaign, but the 6-foot-5, 250-pound target has produced moments suggesting a lofty ceiling. One year removed from a season-ending ACL tear, Henry spent 2019 competing for touches in a Bolts offense boasting two 1,000-yard pass catchers in Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and nearly a third in Austin Ekeler. We haven’t seen Henry in a genuine feature role. He would fit with plenty of clubs, but the Steelers could use an X-factor at the position to brighten the final chapters of Big Ben’s NFL journey.

    On paper and in theory, Henry would indeed be a great fit for the Steelers. Even so, the Arkansas product and former second-round draft pick figures to be this year’s free agent prize at the tight end position, assuming the Chargers don’t place the franchise tag on him by the early March deadline. The Chargers have plenty of salary cap space and not many options at tight end so it’s hard to see them letting Henry walk off uncontested via free agency.

    Even if Henry is allowed to test free agency, he’s likely to command a contract that averages more than $9 million a season and that would be too rich for the salary cap-strapped Steelers in the middle of March. Henry would likely have plenty of other suitors bidding for his services as well and at least one of those several teams would likely be willing to guarantee more of his next contract than the Steelers would want to.

    If the Steelers are to add another tight end to their offseason roster in the coming months, such a player would likely come via the 2020 NFL Draft. Currently, the Steelers have tight ends Vance McDonald, Zach Gentry, Christian Scotland-Williamson and Kevin Rader all under contract for the 2020 season. The team also seems interested in possibly re-signing tight end Nick Vannett back for cheap in the coming month as well.

    In future free agent projections for the Steelers, Sessler needs to lower his target quite a bit. He needs to think cheap and well under the radar. Any suggestion that even remotely resembles a higher profile player is just a waste of internet ink and keyboard typing on his part.

    Our very own Alex Kozora will post a list of more realistic 2020 free agent targets for Steelers in the very near future so be on the lookout for that article.
    From the 2010-2019 season, (A 9 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks.

    WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. So why delay the inevitable?

    Dolphin fans in the 90ís who wanted to hold on to Don Shula for what he did in the 70ís...

    Are the same as Steeler fans (of 2020 ) holding on to Tomlin for what he did in 2008.

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