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    Derwin Gray deserves his thread

    Don't let the fat deceive you. He's the thinking man's pick.

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    Pittsburgh Steelers: Derwin Gray, OT, Maryland B Grade

    I once mocked Derwin Gray as high as the third round, but that was before his severe lack of athleticism was exposed at the combine. Gray could become a strong run blocker in the NFL, but he's going to have severe problems blocking speed pass rushers.

    http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades7.php

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    Yes, he does (deserve it).

    Will be interesting to see how he develops.
    Last edited by spyboots; 04-27-2019 at 10:12 PM.

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    Considering 60% of our starting OL right now is composed of guys who entered the league as an UDFA (Villenueva, Foster, and Feiler), it wouldn't be a complete shocker if a 7th round OL pick was able to stick. Granted, we don't have Mike Munchak around anymore to develop a lump of OL clay into a capable NFL starter, but hopefully his protege had learned enough about developing OL talent after working as his right-hand man as assistant OL coach for the last several years.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonie View Post
    Don't let the fat deceive you. He's the thinking man's pick.
    Big, big mystery if he can be molded into anything without Munchak being here.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    My official proclamation: WE WILL NOT WIN ANOTHER SUPER BOWL WITH MIKE TOMLIN AS OUR HEAD COACH. SO WHY DELAY THE INEVITABLE?

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    Evaluating The Value: OT Derwin Gray

    By Tom Mead
    Posted on April 30, 2019

    Pittsburgh uses their final 2019 draft pick to add some depth on the offensive line. They selected Maryland tackle Derwin Gray.

    Gray had very good size measuring at 6’4 ˝” and 320 pounds at the Combine and has very good length with 34 3/8 inch arms. He spent a year at Fork Union Military Academy before joining the Maryland Terrapins. He made 25 starts in 37 games at left tackle over the past three years. He earned a 2018 Honorable Mention All-Big Ten commendation after blocking for the 17th best rushing offense in the country and third best in the Big Ten, averaging 230.2 yards per game. In 2017 he earned the team’s James M. Tatum Memorial Award as the team’s best lineman and had the fourth-best pass-blocking efficiency according to Pro Football Focus.

    The Steelers sent Pro Scouting Coordinator Brandon Hunt to Maryland’s pro day.

    Lance Zierlein of NFL.com had him projected as 6-7th round pick and stated, “Teams love big tackles with movement skills, but Gray offers a little more challenge for evaluators. His lack of bend causes deficiencies in sustaining blocks and in landing blocks on the move. However, in pass protection, he makes good usage of his size and his length and he might be able to hang in as a left tackle rather than the assumed push to the right side because of his size. He could go from solid to good as a starter if an offensive line coach can improve his consistency in the run game.”

    With Mike Munchak moving on to the Denver Broncos to be closer to his family this will be the first real test for Steelers OL coach Shaun Sarrett who is taking over for him. He spent the past 6 years as the offensive assistant, primarily helping with offensive line and assisting the offensive coaching staff with game preparation. Munchak spoiled us with his ability to develop lineman. Will Sarrett be able to do the same?

    Overall: On one hand, using a late round pick on an offensive lineman is no guarantee that it will amount to anything. On the other hand it is possible as the 7th round pick in 2012 Kelvin Beachum became a pretty darn good tackle. Based on size and length and the positives above as pass blocker there’s a chance he could work on the practice squad and maybe eventually develop. In reality, without injury it’s a long shot to make the roster. This is a solid value pick based on Zierlein’s projection being selected where expected.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/04/ev...t-derwin-gray/

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    Sunday, May 05, 2019 01:00 PM

    'They trusted me, believed in my ability'


    Mike Prisuta

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    Why you should be excited about seventh-round pick Derwin Gray:


    He’s been recognized by his program: Gray, a 6-foot-4, 320-pound offensive tackle, was named Maryland’s best offensive lineman in 2017.


    He’s potentially a position-flexible player: “Derwin Gray was the starting left tackle for Maryland,” General Manager Kevin Colbert assessed. “Derwin is a big, thick guy. He's always been a tackle at the collegiate level. Coach can address it as well, but he'll start off at tackle for us. His body type means that he can probably move inside and be a guard.”


    Head coach Mike Tomlin was on the same page regarding Gray.


    “He’s been a tackle but definitely has some guard physical characteristics that we would be interested in looking at, as well,” Tomlin said.


    Gray had a good pre-draft feeling about the Steelers: “It was always great with the Steelers,” he said. “They always believed in me. They trusted in me. They believed in my ability, that I’m going to get the job done. I’m excited about the opportunity to come to Pittsburgh and contribute early at whatever position I’m needed at.”


    Gray has no preference where he plays: “I’ve played both left and right tackle,” he said. “I haven’t played inside (at guard) at Maryland before. But again, I’m willing to play either one as needed.”


    He’s intangibly appealing: Draft analyst Dane Brugler of The Athletic summed up Gray as follows: “He isn’t the loudest but carried himself like a ‘veteran leader,’ according to his teammates.”


    There’s a place for Gray based on his tape: Brugler’s summation was that Gray “stays engaged with rushers and can be a mauler in the run game, projecting as a backup swing tackle who will fight for starting reps.”


    https://www.steelers.com/news/they-trusted-me-believed-in-my-ability
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Wednesday, May 08, 2019 04:00 PM

    Steelers sign Gray

    Teresa Varley
    Steelers.com

    The Steelers signed seventh-round draft pick Derwin Gray to a four-year contract. Gray, who played at the University of Maryland, was the team’s seventh round draft pick, selected with the 219th pick overall.

    Gray was drafted as an offensive tackle, but Coach Mike Tomlin said he could move to guard.

    “Definitely has some guard, physical characteristics that we would be interested in looking at as well,” said Tomlin. “Flexibility and versatility will be an element of discussion.”

    Gray, who played in 35 games with 25 starts, said he is open to whatever the coaches ask of him.

    “I’ve played both, left and right tackle,” said Gray. “I haven’t played inside. But again, I’m willing to play either one as needed. I’m not really sure where they are going to move me at or keep me out at tackle, but I’m willing to play either one.

    “It was always great with the Steelers. They always believed in me. They trusted in me. The believed in my ability that I’m going to get the job done. I’m excited about the opportunity to come to contribute early at whatever position I’m needed.”

    https://www.steelers.com/news/steelers-sign-gray
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Derwin Gray will probably make the Steelers roster, and have a successful career

    The Steelers have a knack for developing unheralded offensive line prospects into good to great players. Therefore, Derwin Gray, a seventh-round pick out of Maryland in the just-concluded 2019 NFL Draft, should have a successful career in Pittsburgh.

    By Anthony Defeo
    May 9, 2019, 1:27pm EDT

    I have to admit, I stereotype Steelers offensive linemen.

    Now, I realize it’s bad to stereotype people, but hear me out—this is a good thing. The moment I heard the Steelers selected Derwin Gray, an offensive tackle from Maryland, in the just-concluded 2019 NFL Draft, the first thing I thought was, “He’s going to be good.”

    It’s hard to blame me, really. After all, Gray is a seventh-round pick, and when it comes to offensive linemen that are late-round picks and undrafted free agents, the Steelers are like that girlfriend that brings home some piece of furniture she found sitting out on someone’s curb. At first, you’re like, “Honey, what are we going to do with that?” Next thing you know, it’s 10 years later, your girlfriend left a long time ago, and that random piece of furniture is now one of your most valuable assets.

    All it took was a touch of paint and some polish, and that piece of furniture was transformed into a great entertainment unit.

    It all started with Kelvin Beachum, a seventh-round pick in 2012 who was so good at left tackle, he helped you forget that the Steelers made a huge mistake by taking a chance on Mike Adams in the second round that very same year.

    And then Mike Munchak was named offensive line coach in 2014.

    Before you knew it, Alejandro Villanueva, a 2014 undrafted free agent who played receiver and defensive end in college and entered the league as a defensive lineman, was not only protecting Ben Roethlisberger’s blind side, he was doing so at a Pro Bowl level.

    Around that same time, B.J. Finney, a 2015 undrafted free agent, began starting games at guard and center in place of David DeCastro, Ramon Foster (a 2009 UDFA) and Maurkice Pouncey.

    And let’s not forget about Chris Hubbard, a 2013 undrafted free agent out of UAB who was cut, signed to the practice squad, signed to a future contract, made the Steelers roster, was cut again and then made the Steelers roster again. In 2016 and 2017, Hubbard started a combined 14 games at right tackle for the injured/suspended Marcus Gilbert. Hubbard was so good as a fill-in, when he became a bona fide free agent in the spring of 2018, he bested Beachum’s modest free agent haul with the Jaguars two years earlier by inking a five-year, $37.5 million contract with the Browns.

    Now, as the Steelers prepare for the 2019 regular season, the right tackle position should be a major concern, what with the trade of Gilbert to the Cardinals this spring. Yet, it’s not. Why? Because Matt Feiler, a 2014 undrafted free agent out of Bloomsburg, started 10 games there last year and was so effective, nobody cared that Pittsburgh only received a sixth-round pick in return for Gilbert.

    With so much recent history of finding those diamonds in the rough on the offensive line, why would anyone doubt that Shaun Sarrett, the highly-thought of successor to the recently-departed Munchak, will be able to turn Gray into something good to even great?

    You know that thing with cornerbacks, where nobody has faith that the Steelers can develop them? It’s the exact opposite with offensive linemen—especially the unknown prospects.

    I can just picture it now: it’s the spring of 2023. A BTSC headline reads: “Do the Steelers have enough cap space to sign Derwin Gray?”

    Of course not. When do they ever have enough cap space? That’s why they couldn’t afford to match the $42 million deal Feiler got as a free agent in 2021.

    But the good news is, the Steelers will likely have another late-round pick/undrafted free agent waiting in the wings to take Gray’s place at right tackle.

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/5/9/18536648/derwin-gray-will-probably-make-the-steelers-roster-and-have-a-successful-career-2019-nfl-draft
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Grasshopper Sarrett will get it done. Gray makes the team, future swing OL who starts a number of games for out starter with a torn pectoral. One late round or UDFA lineman every year becomes a future contributor for us.

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