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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Lemming View Post
    Needs to get with Ben on how dominating your hometown team is the sweetest revenge for being overlooked by them in the draft.
    Yep.... like salt in the wound for the Browns for years.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...raft-trade-cut

    Looks like they are saying Artie Burns isn't long for being a Steeler
    The article you linked to only suggests that we will likely decline to exercise Burns' 5th year option for 2020, which is certainly not breaking news for anyone here.

    The Steelers' "most likely candidate for post-draft trade or cut" already happened. It was Jon Bostic.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Justin Layne among Day 2's top value picks

    By Cynthia Frelund
    NFL Network Analytics Expert
    Published: April 27, 2019 at 12:46 a.m.
    Updated: April 27, 2019 at 09:32 p.m.


    Justin Layne, CB, Pittsburgh Steelers

    Drafted No. 83 overall

    Layne addresses a big need for the Steelers' defense and is a great strategic fit with the team's first-round pick, linebacker Devin Bush.

    The former Michigan State corner had the lowest yards per target allowed in coverage in FBS since 2017 (4.5 yards per target allowed) and allowed just four deep receptions on 14 deep targets over the past two seasons, per PFF.

    Michigan State boasted the best run defense in college football last season (77.9 rushing yards per game), so it's possible Layne's production was actually undervalued to some degree. When I use computer vision to track him when he's targeted on first down only (to limit the number of snaps in "obvious" passing situations), he ranks among the top five in FBS in completion percentage against.

    Layne is an excellent upside pick for a defense that only had eight interceptions last season (28th in the NFL).

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n=trendingNews
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Justin Layne among Day 2's top value picks

    By Cynthia Frelund
    NFL Network Analytics Expert
    Published: April 27, 2019 at 12:46 a.m.
    Updated: April 27, 2019 at 09:32 p.m.


    Justin Layne, CB, Pittsburgh Steelers

    Drafted No. 83 overall

    Layne addresses a big need for the Steelers' defense and is a great strategic fit with the team's first-round pick, linebacker Devin Bush.

    The former Michigan State corner had the lowest yards per target allowed in coverage in FBS since 2017 (4.5 yards per target allowed) and allowed just four deep receptions on 14 deep targets over the past two seasons, per PFF.

    Michigan State boasted the best run defense in college football last season (77.9 rushing yards per game), so it's possible Layne's production was actually undervalued to some degree. When I use computer vision to track him when he's targeted on first down only (to limit the number of snaps in "obvious" passing situations), he ranks among the top five in FBS in completion percentage against.

    Layne is an excellent upside pick for a defense that only had eight interceptions last season (28th in the NFL).

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n=trendingNews

    Nice article

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Steelers pick had to ditch his Browns socks

    Posted by Darin Gantt on April 30, 2019, 7:45 AM EDT

    Justin Layne was a Browns fan, right down to the soles of his feet.

    At least until the moment he was drafted by the Steelers.

    The Michigan State cornerback was wearing Browns socks Friday night while watching the draft, but quickly pulled them off as soon as the Steelers chose him 83rd overall.

    My dad threw away all his Browns stuff, Layne said, via Matt Charboneau of the Detroit News. He already has all of his Steelers stuff on him right now. We are ready, we are switching it up.

    We are taking all of the Browns stuff down right now. Im ready.

    Layne grew up in Cleveland, so it stands to reason he was a fan of his hometown team, but hes going to need some new laundry now.



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    Secondary coach Teryl Austin breaks down CB Justin Layne
    https://www.steelers.com/video/austi...m3mI7MOpbpFi7w
    I wish people would/could leave politics out of a Steelers Football Forum.

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    Kevin Colbert on WR-Turned-CB Justin Layne: ‘We Think He’s Still On The Rise’

    By Dave Bryan
    Posted on April 30, 2019

    The Pittsburgh Steelers 2019 draft class includes a few players who originally entered the colleges they played for at positions different from the ones they’ll enter the NFL at. Those two players, are cornerback Justin Layne and tight end Zach Gentry and they were recruited by Michigan State and Michigan, respectively, to play wide receiver and quarterback, respectively. During a Monday interview on SiriusXM NFL Radio, Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert talked about the upside both Gentry and Layne have upon entering the NFL due to both only playing the positions they mainly played in college a very brief time. We’ve already passed along what all Colbert had to say Monday about Gentry’s upside and today we’ll focus on all that he had to say about Layne.

    Colbert’s Monday comments about Layne started and stemmed from a statement made by show co-host Jim Miler in which he indicated that the Michigan State product basically had to follow the same path to the NFL as current New York Giants cornerback Tony Lippett, also Spartan alumni, had to travel a few tears ago. In case you forgot, Lippett, who was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the fifth round of the 2015 NFL Draft out of Michigan State, originally started his college career as a wide receiver before quickly being shifted to cornerback and then back to wide receiver again. As a matter of fact, Lippett led the Big Ten in receiving yards and ranked second in touchdown catches (11) while compiling six 100-yard receiving games in his senior season at Michigan State.

    “We think he’s still on the rise, you know, only having been at a corner really for two years as a starter,” Colbert said of Layne. “And he does have length, he does have speed, he understands what receivers are doing because like you said, in reference to Lippett, he’s played that position. So sometimes when a corner’s reading a route, he knows what the route is and what the receiver’s thinking. And you know, Michigan State’s still used him some in a few packages running a couple of deep routes and comebacks and things of that nature. So he knows how to play, but he has ball skills as well. So, we don’t think we’ve seen the best of him, quite honestly. We think he is still on the rise and that’s exciting because he certainly has the length and the speed and the attitude.”

    The Lippett and Layne comparison is an interesting one to make and especially when you consider both had similar paths to the NFL. It’s also interesting to compare Lippett’s and Layne’s combine results. As you can see below, Layne posted better combine numbers this year than Lippett did back in 2015. By the way, Lippett’s 2015 pSPARQ score was 105.7 while Layne’s was 128.9 this year. Layne also enters the NFL at 21 years of age while Lippett was just a few months shy of his 23rd birthday when he was drafted in 2015 by the Dolphins.

    Despite not playing as much at cornerback during his college career at Michigan State than Layne did during his, Lippett still progressed quickly at the NFL level as a cornerback. After primarily playing on special teams during his 2015 rookie season with the Dolphins, Lippett became a starting cornerback for Miami in his second season and went on to finish fourth on the team with 67 tackles, second on the team with ten passes defensed, and leading the team with four interceptions.

    After a solid second season in the NFL with the Dolphins, Lippett’s third season was spent on Miami’s Reserve/Injured list due to a torn Achilles he had suffered during training camp in 2017. After sitting out a year, the Dolphins ultimately released Lippett just ahead of the start of the 2018 regular season and he the Michigan State product later landed with the New York Giants. He played just 3 games with them this past season, however, and it will now be interesting to see if he’s able to make their 53-man roster this year.

    In addition to Colbert liking Layne’s potential moving forward from draft day, new Steelers defensive assistant Teryl Austin unsurprisingly said the same thing immediately after Pittsburgh selected the young cornerback in the third-round.

    “I really like him and his potential,” Austin said of Layne. “When I first saw him, I thought he was really quick bodied, long arms, good ball skills, and very competitive. I think that’s one thing that sticks out with him when you watch him, he’s competitive. He’s not afraid to throw it up in there. He’ll tackle, he’ll compete at the point of attack for a ball. So he’s got a lot of good things to work with.”

    So, what is the flaw with a guy that’s 6-foot-2 with the kind of speed that Layne has? Austin isn’t sure.

    “I’m not sure what the flaw is,” Austin said. “There are a lot of good football players that probably got picked before him. I think it’s just a matter of flavor. And I think when we saw him sitting where he was, I’m very excited to have him. I didn’t think he’d be around this long.”

    Speaking of long, that exactly how Steelers defensive coordinator Keith Butler started off describing Layne when he first talked about the team’s latest drafted cornerback on Saturday.

    “He’s a long, corner for us,” Butler said when asked if Layne is more of a special teams guy. “We like his length and he’s got good ball skills. Is he going to be a special teams guy? We’ll see when we get him out there.”

    If things go as they’re currently likely planned, Layne won’t have to play much on the defensive side of the football during his rookie season. The hope probably is that he can work on becoming a more-rounded, more experienced cornerback during his rookie season during practices and perhaps push for a starting job ahead of his second season. The Steelers obviously haven’t done a great job when it comes to drafting and developing cornerbacks since Colbert arrived in Pittsburgh in 2000 so perhaps them now drafting one with a college wide receiver background will help change that. After all, Colbert has a much better track record when it comes to drafting and developing wide receivers that come out of the first three rounds.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/04/ke...l-on-the-rise/

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    Wednesday, May 01, 2019 06:00 AM

    'He's still learning, but we're excited about that'


    Mike Prisuta

    Steelers.com


    Why you should be excited about third-round pick Justin Layne:


    He looks the part: At 6-foot-1 and 192 pounds, Layne has the size the Steelers covet in a cornerback.


    “I think that one of the things you look for when you’re evaluating cornerbacks, obviously you’re looking for some size,” senior defensive assistant/secondary coach Teryl Austin assessed. “You’re looking for length because when you start talking about a lot of these receivers that are being drafted, they are big men. And you have to be able to compete and win some 50/50 balls.


    “So I think size, length, speed, and then ball skills are important because you have to be able to turn the ball over in this league.”


    He plays a position that will always be perceived as a position of need: “You can’t have enough corners on your team,” Austin insisted. “Because of the amount of running they do, they help you on special teams. When they get nicked, you have to have people in there. You’re going to play four- or five-receiver packages nowadays, so those guys are important.


    “I don’t think you can ever have enough corners on your roster.”


    He’s not a finished product: Layne started out as a wide receiver at Michigan State and was switched to cornerback after the fourth game of his freshman season (2016). He also saw snaps and targets at wide receiver against Purdue and Michigan in 2018 due to the number of injuries the Spartans had sustained at the position.


    “He's still learning how to play corner, but we're excited about that,” General Manager Kevin Colbert said.


    He’s viewed as better than his stats suggest: Layne had one career reception and three career interceptions in three seasons at Michigan State, but the Steelers maintain he can play the ball.


    “I’m comfortable with his ball skills after watching him play and talking to people and being at his workout,” Austin said. “I’m comfortable with where he is, it’s just a matter of turning that into production at this level.”


    Layne registered 16 of his 27 career passes defensed in 2018.


    “We like his length and he’s got good ball skills,” defensive coordinator Keith Butler said.


    He craves contact: “I think that’s one thing that sticks out with him when you watch him, he’s competitive,” Austin said. “He’s not afraid to throw it up in there, he’ll tackle. He’ll compete at the point of attack for a ball.”


    He’s played against top competition: One of the wide receivers Layne battled in 2018 was Arizona State’s N’Keal Harry, who was drafted 32nd overall by New England.


    “I saw him play that game and that’s the one thing I thought, that recover’s very good,” Austin said. “And (Layne) competed very well. He lost a couple, but that’s going to happen when you’re playing a guy that’s that type of quality. But I was very pleased with his performance that game. He didn’t back down. He didn’t give an inch. And he just kept coming at it play after play.”

    https://www.steelers.com/news/he-s-still-learning-but-we-re-excited-about-that
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    ESPN NFL Draft expert Todd McShay calls CB Justin Layne his favorite of the Steelers draft

    Everyone has their own opinion on the Steelers’ 2019 draft class, but ESPN expert Todd McShay has one particular player he liked out of the 9 players.

    By Jeff Hartman
    May 6, 2019, 11:52am EDT

    No matter what we do in life, we all have our favorites. Whether it is our favorite NFL team, the music we listen to or the foods we eat. It is natural to have a favorite.

    But what about players which are drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers?

    Yes, even there we all tend to have our own personal favorites, and we aren’t alone. ESPN’s NFL Draft expert Todd McShay went through all 32 NFL teams’ draft picks and picked out his favorite of the bunch.

    What makes a player be considered for the “best pick” or a “favorite”? McShay explains here:

    Remember: “Best pick” does not necessarily mean “best player.” Team needs, the value a player presented in comparison to my board, and any trades related to the pick all factor in here. New 49ers pass-rusher Nick Bosa is obviously the top prospect, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is the Niners’ best pick of the weekend in Nashville. (Spoiler: He’s not).
    With that said, here is who McShay likes the most out of the Steelers’ 2019 draft class:

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    Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State (Round 3, No. 83 overall)

    Joe Haden is in a contract year, and Artie Burns just hasn’t done a whole lot despite being a high pick in 2016. So corner is a sneaky need for the Steelers. And they got Layne 30 spots past where I ranked him. Even with Steven Nelson in black and yellow, Layne should push for a top-three job right out of the gate. He is a press corner who can read receivers and then turn and run with them very well.

    The Devin Bush pick received serious consideration here, as he will be the face of the defense without Ryan Shazier. But the value on Layne was just too good. The Michigan State corner needs to get stronger still, but he has a high ceiling.
    When you think about the nine players the Steelers brought in throughout the 7-round selection process, you have to ask yourself which pick was your favorite. But before answering right away, you have to ask yourself how you deem a player your favorite? Do you follow McShay’s thinking? Or do you follow a different path to finding your favorite draft pick?

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/5/6/18530714/espn-nfl-draft-expert-todd-mcshay-calls-cb-justin-layne-his-favorite-of-the-steelers-draft-news
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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