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    If there's a stud TE or ILB/EDGE rusher there at 20... I'll be disappointed if we go O-line. Next year will be the year to draft O-Line... once we've plugged our holes and have seen how Chuks, Hawkins, and Feiler are going to do.

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    Steelers feel “less urgent” needs after free agency

    Posted by Josh Alper on April 22, 2019, 3:42 PM EDT

    The Steelers held their pre-draft press conference on Monday and one of the messages sent by General Manager Kevin Colbert was that the team wouldn’t be taking certain positions off the board because they signed free agents that play them last month.

    Wide receiver Donte Moncrief, cornerback Steven Nelson and linebacker/safety Mark Barron were all signed to fill needs on the team’s roster, but Colbert said that the team may still address all of those areas in the draft. Having those veterans on hand does make any needs at those spots feel “less urgent” by allowing rookies to develop at a slower pace.

    “You really want to go in with these players and delay them getting onto the field as long as you can,” Colbert said, via the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. “Over time, I think coach would get comfortable with what they can do, but to have them step out and play, it’s detrimental to the player. If they lose confidence early, it’s usually not returnable.”

    The Steelers have four picks in the first three rounds and 10 overall picks at their disposal, which gives them a lot of capital to use on filling out the roster at any pace they want.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/22/steelers-feel-less-urgent-needs-after-free-agency/
    Trade 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd for 1.8 or 1.9

    1.8 or 1.9 ILB Devin White
    3.66 OLB Chase Winovich
    3.83 S Amani Hooker
    4.122 TE Dawson Knox
    5.141 CB Kris Boyd
    6.175 WR Keelan Doss
    6.192 G Beau Benzschawel
    6.207 RB Kerrith Whyte
    7.219 DE Armon Watts

    or

    1.20 CB Byron Murphy
    2.52 OLB D'Andre Walker
    3.66 S Darnell Savage
    3.83 WR Miles Boykin
    4.122 ILB David Long
    5.141 C/G Ross Pierschbacher
    6.175 TE Kahele Warring
    6.192 NT Daylon Mack
    6.207 RB Devine Ozigbo
    7.219 DE Albert Huggins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie View Post
    If there's a stud TE or ILB/EDGE rusher there at 20... I'll be disappointed if we go O-line. Next year will be the year to draft O-Line... once we've plugged our holes and have seen how Chuks, Hawkins, and Feiler are going to do.
    Sounds good but don’t be shocked if they take one.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    Sounds good but don’t be shocked if they take one.
    I would be very surprised.

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    For our 30 official predraft visits, there was only one o-lineman among them, a guard from LSU whose predraft projection is UDFA.

    I expect us to draft an interior o-lineman for depth, because the only backup guard/center behind Foster, Pouncey, and DeCastro is B.J. Finney, with at tackle we have Villenueva, Feiler, Okorafor, Hawkins, and Banner.

    However, the rookie o-lineman we draft will likely be a game day inactive in year one, so I think we use a 6th or 7th rounder in this draft. Maybe higher next year.
    Trade 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd for 1.8 or 1.9

    1.8 or 1.9 ILB Devin White
    3.66 OLB Chase Winovich
    3.83 S Amani Hooker
    4.122 TE Dawson Knox
    5.141 CB Kris Boyd
    6.175 WR Keelan Doss
    6.192 G Beau Benzschawel
    6.207 RB Kerrith Whyte
    7.219 DE Armon Watts

    or

    1.20 CB Byron Murphy
    2.52 OLB D'Andre Walker
    3.66 S Darnell Savage
    3.83 WR Miles Boykin
    4.122 ILB David Long
    5.141 C/G Ross Pierschbacher
    6.175 TE Kahele Warring
    6.192 NT Daylon Mack
    6.207 RB Devine Ozigbo
    7.219 DE Albert Huggins

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    I can't see us taking an Offensive lineman until Round 3 at the earliest. Most likely Round 4 or 5. I'd be shocked if they took one in Round 1 because there is so much top end defensive line talent in this draft it is far more likely we would take a DL at #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    I can't see us taking an Offensive lineman until Round 3 at the earliest. Most likely Round 4 or 5. I'd be shocked if they took one in Round 1 because there is so much top end defensive line talent in this draft it is far more likely we would take a DL at #20
    I hear ya but with age and players contracts becoming due, at some point soon we gotta get some cheap, new, top flight talent on that O-line. And when it comes in, it has to be able to perform at an adequate playing level right away.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    I hear ya but with age and players contracts becoming due, at some point soon we gotta get some cheap, new, top flight talent on that O-line. And when it comes in, it has to be able to perform at an adequate playing level right away.
    Feiler was able to step in for Gilbert in each of the last 2 seasons without much disruption.

    If a tackle goes down this year, Okorafor should be able to step in without much disruption.

    If a guard or center goes down this year, Finney should be able to step in without much disruption.

    The 7 o-linemen who will be active on gameday are already set (Villenueva, Foster, Pouncey, DeCastro, Feiler, Okorafor, and Finney).

    The 8th o-lineman spot on the roster (a second backup tackle who will most likely be inactive on most gamedays) will come down to battle between Jerald Hawkins and Zach Banner in camp.

    The 9th o-lineman spot on the roster (a second backup interior lineman who will most likely be inactive on most gamedays) will likely be a later round draft pick or UDFA this year.
    Trade 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd for 1.8 or 1.9

    1.8 or 1.9 ILB Devin White
    3.66 OLB Chase Winovich
    3.83 S Amani Hooker
    4.122 TE Dawson Knox
    5.141 CB Kris Boyd
    6.175 WR Keelan Doss
    6.192 G Beau Benzschawel
    6.207 RB Kerrith Whyte
    7.219 DE Armon Watts

    or

    1.20 CB Byron Murphy
    2.52 OLB D'Andre Walker
    3.66 S Darnell Savage
    3.83 WR Miles Boykin
    4.122 ILB David Long
    5.141 C/G Ross Pierschbacher
    6.175 TE Kahele Warring
    6.192 NT Daylon Mack
    6.207 RB Devine Ozigbo
    7.219 DE Albert Huggins

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