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    We'll ultimately look back at 3/13/19 as a turning point for this team for the better

    People are losing their minds on this board, gnashing teeth about AB, Bell, Colbert, Tomlin, Rooney, etc.

    Shortly after losing a generational talent at ILB in Ryan Shazier due to catastrophic injury, we have now officially lost generational talents at WR and RB in Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell (when the new league year officially opens today at 4:00 p.m. EST). How can one team possible overcome the loss of possibly the most talented ILB, WR, and RB in the game in such a short span of time?

    The Shazier loss was obviously a fluke, but the Steelers are showing what a stand-up organization they are by continuing his employment here so that he is able to get the continuing care necessary for him to be able to complete his course of rehab to be able to live a relatively normal life going forward. To see him go from not being able to move his legs at all following that game in Cincinnati, to being able to walk slowly across the stage to announce the Steelers first round pick last May to the news that he is now jogging is an inspirational story to Steeler fans and also for his Steeler teammates as well. Keeping him around is a big part of re-establishing the true Steelers culture again.

    For all the talent that Brown and Bell had, and all of the excitement that the brought to the field, the reality is that Steelers won jack squat with them on our roster. The Steelers at their best are not led by fantasy football superstars. The Steelers at their best are team-first, no-nonsense, blue collar workers, not me-first, superstar, prima donna divas. Tomlin has said that we will put with you until we can replace you. Well, we put up with the "Kardashian" thing long enough, and we now have young, hungry drama-free options to replace Brown and Bell. With the attention finally off the daily Twitter feed and individual accolades, this team can finally head to Latrobe this summer with renewed focus and common team goals.

    When Bell sat out all of last year putting contract demands in his lyrics and when Brown sent out his notorious "unguarantees" tweet, it was obvious that money was their primary motivating factor above all else. Captain Lemming has been reminding us for a while now that teams paying huge money to RB's and WR's are not the teams who end their seasons with parades. Rather than tying up $30M or so per year for these two guys alone, the Steelers are starting to spend some of this money to upgrade our defense instead, signing a much needed corner on the first wave of free agency rather than waiting to shop exclusively from the bargain bin.

    Our monetary resources on offense are focused on our franchise QB and his protection in front of him. If the line can give Ben time and open holes in the run game, he will be able to utilize a committee approach of offensive weapons on reasonable deals...just find the guy who is open at the time as opposed to trying to force the ball into tight spots in an effort to feed the beast a certain number of targets or carries simply to accommodate swollen egos. Ben's INT's tended to come when he would try to force-feed the ball in traffic to these superstar types as opposed to just taking what the defense gives him. We have no need for guys who feel satisfied with 10 catches for 150 yards in a loss, but bitch and moan if they only get a couple of targets in a victory.

    When we were a championship team, our offense was led by blue collar types at RB, WR, and TE such as Jerome Bettis, Hines Ward, and Heath Miller. Our current top RB, WR, and TE (James Conner, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Vance McDonald), seem to share much more in common with their hard-working, no-nonsense championship-caliber predecessors in Bettis, Ward, and Miller than fantasy stat goblins like Bell and Brown.

    Colbert was blasted for his "Ben and his 52 kids" comment, but I believe what he was trying to get across is that Ben is our last link on the field to our championship days, so he knows what it takes to get us there, and it is up to him to lead this team toward that goal going forward. He knows how Bettis, Ward, and Miller practiced and played the game and he should do what he can to push his young offensive weapons to achieve a similar level of success. His motivational tactics might work better for some players (like when he challenged James Washington, who is a blue collar kid who grew up on a farm, and his overall game did improve as the season progressed) than other players (such as critiques of Antonio Brown, whose placement on the narcissism scale might rival the President's in terms of a superinflated sense of entitlement and ego).

    As for our on-field leadership beyond Ben, I like that we have a couple of well-respected, hard-working, blue-collar studs to lead us from each side of the trenches (Cam Heyward and Maurkice Pouncey) and we also have some young upcoming keystone players for us in T.J. Watt, Juju Smith-Schuster, and James Conner. Now in their 3rd year in the league, these guys not only have the opportunity to step up as players on the field, but also as leaders on the field.

    It's a new day for Steeler football. Embrace it. The days of the Diva Steelers (who started to believe their press clippings that a collection of individual talents could just show up and beat "inferior" teams) will be officially dead at 4:00 p.m. today. We now have our identity back. We are the blue collar Steelers again. A true team. We are not afraid of an offseason headline juggernaut like Cleveland, who is trying to collect a bunch of individually talented divas similar to the cancers we just purged from our roster. Long live the Steelers.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    I definitely agree that now we can go back to our true identity. All for that. And I also agree that this is a turning point season for us.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    People are losing their minds on this board, gnashing teeth about AB, Bell, Colbert, Tomlin, Rooney, etc.

    Shortly after losing a generational talent at ILB in Ryan Shazier due to catastrophic injury, we have now officially lost generational talents at WR and RB in Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell (when the new league year officially opens today at 4:00 p.m. EST). How can one team possible overcome the loss of possibly the most talented ILB, WR, and RB in the game in such a short span of time?

    The Shazier loss was obviously a fluke, but the Steelers are showing what a stand-up organization they are by continuing his employment here so that he is able to get the continuing care necessary for him to be able to complete his course of rehab to be able to live a relatively normal life going forward. To see him go from not being able to move his legs at all following that game in Cincinnati, to being able to walk slowly across the stage to announce the Steelers first round pick last May to the news that he is now jogging is an inspirational story to Steeler fans and also for his Steeler teammates as well. Keeping him around is a big part of re-establishing the true Steelers culture again.

    For all the talent that Brown and Bell had, and all of the excitement that the brought to the field, the reality is that Steelers won jack squat with them on our roster. The Steelers at their best are not led by fantasy football superstars. The Steelers at their best are team-first, no-nonsense, blue collar workers, not me-first, superstar, prima donna divas. Tomlin has said that we will put with you until we can replace you. Well, we put up with the "Kardashian" thing long enough, and we now have young, hungry drama-free options to replace Brown and Bell. With the attention finally off the daily Twitter feed and individual accolades, this team can finally head to Latrobe this summer with renewed focus and common team goals.

    When Bell sat out all of last year putting contract demands in his lyrics and when Brown sent out his notorious "unguarantees" tweet, it was obvious that money was their primary motivating factor above all else. Captain Lemming has been reminding us for a while now that teams paying huge money to RB's and WR's are not the teams who end their seasons with parades. Rather than tying up $30M or so per year for these two guys alone, the Steelers are starting to spend some of this money to upgrade our defense instead, signing a much needed corner on the first wave of free agency rather than waiting to shop exclusively from the bargain bin.

    Our monetary resources on offense are focused on our franchise QB and his protection in front of him. If the line can give Ben time and open holes in the run game, he will be able to utilize a committee approach of offensive weapons on reasonable deals...just find the guy who is open at the time as opposed to trying to force the ball into tight spots in an effort to feed the beast a certain number of targets or carries simply to accommodate swollen egos. Ben's INT's tended to come when he would try to force-feed the ball in traffic to these superstar types as opposed to just taking what the defense gives him. We have no need for guys who feel satisfied with 10 catches for 150 yards in a loss, but bitch and moan if they only get a couple of targets in a victory.

    When we were a championship team, our offense was led by blue collar types at RB, WR, and TE such as Jerome Bettis, Hines Ward, and Heath Miller. Our current top RB, WR, and TE (James Conner, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Vance McDonald), seem to share much more in common with their hard-working, no-nonsense championship-caliber predecessors in Bettis, Ward, and Miller than fantasy stat goblins like Bell and Brown.

    Colbert was blasted for his "Ben and his 52 kids" comment, but I believe what he was trying to get across is that Ben is our last link on the field to our championship days, so he knows what it takes to get us there, and it is up to him to lead this team toward that goal going forward. He knows how Bettis, Ward, and Miller practiced and played the game and he should do what he can to push his young offensive weapons to achieve a similar level of success. His motivational tactics might work better for some players (like when he challenged James Washington, who is a blue collar kid who grew up on a farm, and his overall game did improve as the season progressed) than other players (such as critiques of Antonio Brown, whose placement on the narcissism scale might rival the President's in terms of a superinflated sense of entitlement and ego).

    As for our on-field leadership beyond Ben, I like that we have a couple of well-respected, hard-working, blue-collar studs to lead us from each side of the trenches (Cam Heyward and Maurkice Pouncey) and we also have some young upcoming keystone players for us in T.J. Watt, Juju Smith-Schuster, and James Conner. Now in their 3rd year in the league, these guys not only have the opportunity to step up as players on the field, but also as leaders on the field.

    It's a new day for Steeler football. Embrace it. The days of the Diva Steelers (who started to believe their press clippings that a collection of individual talents could just show up and beat "inferior" teams) will be officially dead at 4:00 p.m. today. We now have our identity back. We are the blue collar Steelers again. A true team. We are not afraid of an offseason headline juggernaut like Cleveland, who is trying to collect a bunch of individually talented divas similar to the cancers we just purged from our roster. Long live the Steelers.
    Truly outstanding post. Nice when the adults post

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    Good post. I'm down with the general sentiment, however, I still feel like this team is missing some difference makers on D.

    I'm still not 100% sure where the problem lies. It could be players, coaching, or even system to a degree. But there's no doubt, we have to rely too much on misdirection and tom foolery to generate pressure versus just dominating our man at the point of attack. The thing I can't put my finger on is why some players are not more dominant because I really like some of the individuals we have especially on the DLine. Maybe we need to rotate more. Maybe we need more traditional DEs because of how often we run a 4 man line. Perhaps it's a mix of players in the system we play that doesn't quite jive. In some ways, I really wish we could blow up the D and overhaul from the ground up.

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    I hope so. I think this team knows how to get back to SB’s when we have a dominant D. Not sure we know how to do it without one.

    Hopefully a stronger locker room leads to a stronger team on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post

    It's a new day for Steeler football. Embrace it. The days of the Diva Steelers (who started to believe their press clippings that a collection of individual talents could just show up and beat "inferior" teams) will be officially dead at 4:00 p.m. today. We now have our identity back. We are the blue collar Steelers again. A true team. We are not afraid of an offseason headline juggernaut like Cleveland, who is trying to collect a bunch of individually talented divas similar to the cancers we just purged from our roster. Long live the Steelers.
    Sure hope you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    People are losing their minds on this board, gnashing teeth about AB, Bell, Colbert, Tomlin, Rooney, etc.

    Shortly after losing a generational talent at ILB in Ryan Shazier due to catastrophic injury, we have now officially lost generational talents at WR and RB in Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell (when the new league year officially opens today at 4:00 p.m. EST). How can one team possible overcome the loss of possibly the most talented ILB, WR, and RB in the game in such a short span of time?

    The Shazier loss was obviously a fluke, but the Steelers are showing what a stand-up organization they are by continuing his employment here so that he is able to get the continuing care necessary for him to be able to complete his course of rehab to be able to live a relatively normal life going forward. To see him go from not being able to move his legs at all following that game in Cincinnati, to being able to walk slowly across the stage to announce the Steelers first round pick last May to the news that he is now jogging is an inspirational story to Steeler fans and also for his Steeler teammates as well. Keeping him around is a big part of re-establishing the true Steelers culture again.

    For all the talent that Brown and Bell had, and all of the excitement that the brought to the field, the reality is that Steelers won jack squat with them on our roster. The Steelers at their best are not led by fantasy football superstars. The Steelers at their best are team-first, no-nonsense, blue collar workers, not me-first, superstar, prima donna divas. Tomlin has said that we will put with you until we can replace you. Well, we put up with the "Kardashian" thing long enough, and we now have young, hungry drama-free options to replace Brown and Bell. With the attention finally off the daily Twitter feed and individual accolades, this team can finally head to Latrobe this summer with renewed focus and common team goals.

    When Bell sat out all of last year putting contract demands in his lyrics and when Brown sent out his notorious "unguarantees" tweet, it was obvious that money was their primary motivating factor above all else. Captain Lemming has been reminding us for a while now that teams paying huge money to RB's and WR's are not the teams who end their seasons with parades. Rather than tying up $30M or so per year for these two guys alone, the Steelers are starting to spend some of this money to upgrade our defense instead, signing a much needed corner on the first wave of free agency rather than waiting to shop exclusively from the bargain bin.

    Our monetary resources on offense are focused on our franchise QB and his protection in front of him. If the line can give Ben time and open holes in the run game, he will be able to utilize a committee approach of offensive weapons on reasonable deals...just find the guy who is open at the time as opposed to trying to force the ball into tight spots in an effort to feed the beast a certain number of targets or carries simply to accommodate swollen egos. Ben's INT's tended to come when he would try to force-feed the ball in traffic to these superstar types as opposed to just taking what the defense gives him. We have no need for guys who feel satisfied with 10 catches for 150 yards in a loss, but bitch and moan if they only get a couple of targets in a victory.

    When we were a championship team, our offense was led by blue collar types at RB, WR, and TE such as Jerome Bettis, Hines Ward, and Heath Miller. Our current top RB, WR, and TE (James Conner, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Vance McDonald), seem to share much more in common with their hard-working, no-nonsense championship-caliber predecessors in Bettis, Ward, and Miller than fantasy stat goblins like Bell and Brown.

    Colbert was blasted for his "Ben and his 52 kids" comment, but I believe what he was trying to get across is that Ben is our last link on the field to our championship days, so he knows what it takes to get us there, and it is up to him to lead this team toward that goal going forward. He knows how Bettis, Ward, and Miller practiced and played the game and he should do what he can to push his young offensive weapons to achieve a similar level of success. His motivational tactics might work better for some players (like when he challenged James Washington, who is a blue collar kid who grew up on a farm, and his overall game did improve as the season progressed) than other players (such as critiques of Antonio Brown, whose placement on the narcissism scale might rival the President's in terms of a superinflated sense of entitlement and ego).

    As for our on-field leadership beyond Ben, I like that we have a couple of well-respected, hard-working, blue-collar studs to lead us from each side of the trenches (Cam Heyward and Maurkice Pouncey) and we also have some young upcoming keystone players for us in T.J. Watt, Juju Smith-Schuster, and James Conner. Now in their 3rd year in the league, these guys not only have the opportunity to step up as players on the field, but also as leaders on the field.

    It's a new day for Steeler football. Embrace it. The days of the Diva Steelers (who started to believe their press clippings that a collection of individual talents could just show up and beat "inferior" teams) will be officially dead at 4:00 p.m. today. We now have our identity back. We are the blue collar Steelers again. A true team. We are not afraid of an offseason headline juggernaut like Cleveland, who is trying to collect a bunch of individually talented divas similar to the cancers we just purged from our roster. Long live the Steelers.
    Great post!

    I hope that you're right.

    Either way, I think all of us on this site will be cheering for the Black and Gold no matter who's in the jerseys or on the sideline.

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    This team better have a stellar draft or we will miss the playoffs again.

    Most teams go all in when their Hall of Fame QB is a couple years from retirement.

    This team loses all pros and their best coach (Munchek).
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    Nice post Ruthless. They do still have to play the games, right? Or are games just won and lost on paper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    People are losing their minds on this board, gnashing teeth about AB, Bell, Colbert, Tomlin, Rooney, etc.

    Shortly after losing a generational talent at ILB in Ryan Shazier due to catastrophic injury, we have now officially lost generational talents at WR and RB in Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell (when the new league year officially opens today at 4:00 p.m. EST). How can one team possible overcome the loss of possibly the most talented ILB, WR, and RB in the game in such a short span of time?

    The Shazier loss was obviously a fluke, but the Steelers are showing what a stand-up organization they are by continuing his employment here so that he is able to get the continuing care necessary for him to be able to complete his course of rehab to be able to live a relatively normal life going forward. To see him go from not being able to move his legs at all following that game in Cincinnati, to being able to walk slowly across the stage to announce the Steelers first round pick last May to the news that he is now jogging is an inspirational story to Steeler fans and also for his Steeler teammates as well. Keeping him around is a big part of re-establishing the true Steelers culture again.

    For all the talent that Brown and Bell had, and all of the excitement that the brought to the field, the reality is that Steelers won jack squat with them on our roster. The Steelers at their best are not led by fantasy football superstars. The Steelers at their best are team-first, no-nonsense, blue collar workers, not me-first, superstar, prima donna divas. Tomlin has said that we will put with you until we can replace you. Well, we put up with the "Kardashian" thing long enough, and we now have young, hungry drama-free options to replace Brown and Bell. With the attention finally off the daily Twitter feed and individual accolades, this team can finally head to Latrobe this summer with renewed focus and common team goals.

    When Bell sat out all of last year putting contract demands in his lyrics and when Brown sent out his notorious "unguarantees" tweet, it was obvious that money was their primary motivating factor above all else. Captain Lemming has been reminding us for a while now that teams paying huge money to RB's and WR's are not the teams who end their seasons with parades. Rather than tying up $30M or so per year for these two guys alone, the Steelers are starting to spend some of this money to upgrade our defense instead, signing a much needed corner on the first wave of free agency rather than waiting to shop exclusively from the bargain bin.

    Our monetary resources on offense are focused on our franchise QB and his protection in front of him. If the line can give Ben time and open holes in the run game, he will be able to utilize a committee approach of offensive weapons on reasonable deals...just find the guy who is open at the time as opposed to trying to force the ball into tight spots in an effort to feed the beast a certain number of targets or carries simply to accommodate swollen egos. Ben's INT's tended to come when he would try to force-feed the ball in traffic to these superstar types as opposed to just taking what the defense gives him. We have no need for guys who feel satisfied with 10 catches for 150 yards in a loss, but bitch and moan if they only get a couple of targets in a victory.

    When we were a championship team, our offense was led by blue collar types at RB, WR, and TE such as Jerome Bettis, Hines Ward, and Heath Miller. Our current top RB, WR, and TE (James Conner, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Vance McDonald), seem to share much more in common with their hard-working, no-nonsense championship-caliber predecessors in Bettis, Ward, and Miller than fantasy stat goblins like Bell and Brown.

    Colbert was blasted for his "Ben and his 52 kids" comment, but I believe what he was trying to get across is that Ben is our last link on the field to our championship days, so he knows what it takes to get us there, and it is up to him to lead this team toward that goal going forward. He knows how Bettis, Ward, and Miller practiced and played the game and he should do what he can to push his young offensive weapons to achieve a similar level of success. His motivational tactics might work better for some players (like when he challenged James Washington, who is a blue collar kid who grew up on a farm, and his overall game did improve as the season progressed) than other players (such as critiques of Antonio Brown, whose placement on the narcissism scale might rival the President's in terms of a superinflated sense of entitlement and ego).

    As for our on-field leadership beyond Ben, I like that we have a couple of well-respected, hard-working, blue-collar studs to lead us from each side of the trenches (Cam Heyward and Maurkice Pouncey) and we also have some young upcoming keystone players for us in T.J. Watt, Juju Smith-Schuster, and James Conner. Now in their 3rd year in the league, these guys not only have the opportunity to step up as players on the field, but also as leaders on the field.

    It's a new day for Steeler football. Embrace it. The days of the Diva Steelers (who started to believe their press clippings that a collection of individual talents could just show up and beat "inferior" teams) will be officially dead at 4:00 p.m. today. We now have our identity back. We are the blue collar Steelers again. A true team. We are not afraid of an offseason headline juggernaut like Cleveland, who is trying to collect a bunch of individually talented divas similar to the cancers we just purged from our roster. Long live the Steelers.
    Well versed Ruth!

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