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    Look for us to go strong after Max Williams TE. Other option are Gresham and Kendricks although both are in 30s.
    I also wonder, what Rudolf's future is going to be in Minny, he might be a cap casualty.
    ďIím so tired of LeíVeon," DeCastro told reporters (h/t ESPN's Jeremy Fowler ([url]https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1038909446146203649[/url])) after Sunday's game. "Iím so tired of it. Letís just worry about the guys in here. I know you guys have stories to write and what not. I love LeíVeon, but we gotta worry about the guys in here. Theyíre the only people that matter to me."



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    He signed with the Cardinals yesterday.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (An 8 year period that the majority of Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

    FIRE MIKE TOMLIN

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    TE Lee Smith Makes Sense As Fit For Steelers

    By Alex Kozora
    Posted on May 3, 2019

    Thereís no doubt the two positions that the Pittsburgh Steelers could further address coming out of the draft are tight end and safety. Thatís even after choosing Zach Gentry in the 5th round. But when your group is Vance ďCan He Stay HealthyĒ McDonald, Xavier Grimble, and Gentry, itís not a bad idea to explore options.

    Oakland handed Pittsburgh another option yesterday. They released TE Lee Smith, someone who is worth a look in training camp.

    Donít mistake Smith for anything more than what he is. But what heís a talented, block-first (and secondÖand third) 31 year old tight end who can make the tight end battle an actual competition while rounding out depth. At 6í6 265, this is your dude.

    McDonald is an excellent #1 tight end. But even after missing just one game last year, the opener versus Cleveland, he played a fairly even rotation of snaps with Jesse James. So donít expect McDonaldís snap count to shoot up to 90% just because James signed with Detroit. Pittsburgh liked Grimble enough to slap a tender on him, perhaps protecting themselves assuming they were losing James, and he currently stands as the #2. Then thereís Gentry, who the team has admitted is a work in progress, even if they like his ceiling.

    Behind those three? Thereís not much to work with. Jake McGee tore his Achilles last spring and wasnít tendered and Bucky Hodges mysteriously released before the draft. The only other names on the roster are Kevin Rader, Christian Scotland-Williamson andÖI guess, Trevor Wood. Raderís never made an NFL team, CSW is still technically exempt from a roster spot, and Wood was brought in as much for his long snapping duties as anything he did at tight end. Point is, donít expect any three of those guys to make a serious push for the 53.

    So why not Lee? He sure wonít be expensive. 31 year old blocker who made $2 million in 2018? Probably can get him for half of that or even a minimum salary benefit contract. Donít expect anything from him as a receiver, though he caught this three yard touchdown against the Steelers last season, but thatís not why youíre signing him.

    Bringing Smith in makes you feel a lot better about the group as a whole. Gentry doesnít progress like planned? Send him to the practice squad, make Smith the #3. Someone gets hurt? Again, Smith slides in. They all pan out? Good problem to have, make the best decision then. And if youíre worried about the comp formula, donít. Just like Mark Barron, Smith doesnít count against it because he was released.

    Sign Smith now instead of waiting for a camp cut or mid-August trade. Maybe you find a better player but youíll also acquire someone trying to jump on the moving train, the season already starting. Just like the teaíms philosophy in the draft, he adds flexibility to the roster and a solid insurance policy.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/05/te...-for-steelers/

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    Best free agent players still available with compensatory deadline set to pass on Tuesday

    With the second wave of free agency set to start on May 7, we take a look at some of the more talented names on the open market.

    By Simon Chester
    May 6, 2019, 1:05pm EDT

    With the passing of the compensatory draft pick deadline for 2019 set for May 7, the NFL is likely to see a second wave of free agency begin on Tuesday. And if the Pittsburgh Steelers have any plans to sign some of the names still available, there is a good chance they will need to move quickly this week or risk seeing the player sign elsewhere this year.

    For teams like the Steelers who expect to receive additional draft picks in 2020 to make up for the free agents they lost this offseason, the opportunity to sign players without them counting against the formula that determines compensatory draft selections can be an important date on the calendar. Seemingly in line for a third-round selection next year to compensate for the loss of Le’Veon Bell to the New York Jets, based on current projections from OverTheCap.com, Pittsburgh is one of nine teams expected to receive one of the highest compensatory draft picks available in 2020.

    A lack of salary cap space would seem to suggest that the Steelers will not be significant players during this second round of free agency, but there are still plenty of players looking for new homes who could be in high demand elsewhere.

    Quarterback

    Sam Bradford, Matt Cassel, Josh Johnson, Colin Kaepernick, Josh McCown, Brock Osweiler, Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith.

    Running Back

    Jay Ajayi, LeGarrette Blount, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, Marshawn Lynch, Alfred Morris, Bilal Powell, Stevan Ridley, Darren Sproles, Charcandrick West.

    Wide Receiver

    Dez Bryant, Michael Crabtree, Pierre Garcon, Dontrelle Inman, Jermaine Kearse, Brandon LaFell, Rishard Matthews, De’Anthony Thomas, Mike Wallace, Terrance Williams.

    Tight End

    Antonio Gates, MarQueis Gray, Jermaine Gresham, Michael Hoomanawanui, Lance Kendricks, Lee Smith, Dion Sims, Maxx Williams.

    Offensive Line

    Jeff Allen, Joe Barksdale, T.J. Clemmings, Chris Clark, Cameron Fleming, Jonathan Cooper, Garry Gilliam, Ryan Groy, Ulrick John, Andy Levitre, Jordan Mills, Marshall Newhouse, Jermey Parnell, Donald Penn, Mike Remmers, Tyler Shatley, Josh Sitton, Quinton Spain, John Sullivan, Travis Swanson, Jared Veldheer, Josh Wells, Chance Warmack, Stefen Wisniewski.

    Edge Rusher

    Sam Acho, Connor Barwin, Kony Ealy, William Hayes, Michael Johnson, Dion Jordan, Matt Longacre, Josh Martin, Pernell McPhee, Derrick Morgan, Nick Perry, Shane Ray, Frostee Rucker, Derrick Shelby, Frank Zombo.

    Defensive Line

    Ezekiel Ansah, Allen Bailey, Andre Branch, Tyeler Davison, Dominique Easley, Rodney Gunter, Ziggy Hood, Ricky Jean-Francois, Michael Johnson, Zach Kerr, Corey Liuget, Earl Mitchell, Malik McDowell, Stacy McGee, Domata Peko, Ahtyba Rubin, Danny Shelton, Ndamukong Suh, Muhammad Wilkerson, Al Woods.

    Linebacker

    Jon Bostic, Josh Bynes, Jeremy Cash, Jamie Collins, Brock Coyle, Will Compton, Nate Palmer, Kevin Pierre-Louis, Kelvin Sheppard, Manti Te’o.

    Cornerback

    Morris Claiborne, Brent Grimes, Vontae Davis, Davon House, Captain Munnerlyn, Coty Sensabaugh, Orlando Scandrick, Sam Shields, Kayvon Webster, Shareece Wright.

    Safety

    Mike Adams, Eric Berry, Tre Boston, Nat Berhe, Johnathan Cyprien, Kurt Coleman, Chris Conte, Marcus Gilchrist, Kendrick Lewis, Mike Mitchell, Reggie Nelson, Ron Parker, Glover Quin, Darian Stewart.

    Currently listed with $4,816,131 in available salary cap space, as per the NFLPA public salary cap report on Monday, the Steelers should be able to afford most of the names still on the open market, barring one or two exceptions. But with a nine-man draft class still to sign that is projected to cost around $3million this year, any significant signings would require the team to create some additional cap space to cover their draft selections.

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/5/6/18531054/best-free-agents-still-available-with-compensatory-deadline-set-to-pass-on-tuesday-nfl-news
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Tprod: Do the Steelers make a serious move for another TE. Thought they would have gone TE then RB in the draft. Concerned about Connor staying healthy? McDonald not exactly an example for staying out of the trainerís room.

    Ray Fittipaldo: I wouldn't be surprised if the backup TE when the season starts is on another team right now.

    https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...s/201905060077

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    The Steelers are in line to get a 3rd round compensatory pick in 2020, but it could be just a 7th

    Now that the timeframe of free agent signings counting toward the compensatory formula is concluded, where do the Steelers currently stand?

    By Dave Schofield
    May 9, 2019, 7:47am EDT

    With the conclusion of the period for which free agent signings are calculated in the compensatory formula, the Pittsburgh Steelers are now in a position where they should gain a compensatory draft pick in 2020. It is estimated the Steelers will receive a third round pick, but with such an unknown and delicate equation the same players could draw only a seventh round pick with just the slightest fluctuation in variables. It would be reasonable to believe if Le’Veon Bell’s value fell from a third round to a fourth round that the Steelers would receive a fourth round pick instead. But, unfortunately, the cancellation process does not appear to fall in the Steelers favor.

    While the formula to calculate compensatory value isn’t made public by the NFL, the process of awarding picks is clearly defined. Once the players compensatory value is calculated, they are given a “round designation” which determines their value. This is done for every free-agent player and affects both the team who gained the player and the team who lost the player. Free agents who sign for the league minimum do not qualify in the compensatory process and are designated “non-qualifying unrestricted free agents.” Players who were released by a team also do not qualify as a compensatory player, such as Mark Barron since he was released by the Los Angeles Rams. Since the Rams cannot benefit from Barron’s loss, the Steelers are not penalized by signing him.

    A team is only eligible for a compensatory draft pick if they have lost a greater number of qualifying players then they have gained, regardless of the round designation. If a team loses a third round free-agent and signs a seventh round free agent, they are not eligible for a typical compensatory draft pick. The only exception is the NFL could award a compensatory pick if a team has a significant net loss compared to players gained (meaning if they lost multiple third round designated players but signed several seventh round players).

    When a greater number of players have been lost in free agency than gained, the cancellation process begins. If a player gained does not have a player lost with an equal round designation, the next player in the next lowest round will be canceled out. For example, if a team signs a player with a fourth round designation, that player would cancel any other fourth round departure. If there is not one, they would cancel the next player down the list in either the fifth, sixth, or seventh round. Any player departures who were not canceled out by a player gain would award the team a compensatory pick for the round they were designated.

    So for the 2019 league year, the Steelers had three players who qualify under departures (Bell, James, and Fort) and two players who they have signed as qualifying free agents (Nelson and Moncrief). As stated earlier, Mark Barron does not count due to him being released by his previous team.

    The estimation of the round designation begins with the average yearly salary the player would make over the life of their new contract. These round designations can change at the conclusion of the 2019 season based on the multiplication factors determined by playing time and award recognition. As of right now, the following round designations have been approximated for the Steelers free agents:

    Departures:

    Le’Veon Bell (3)

    Jesse James (6)

    L.J. Fort (7)

    Arrivals:

    Steven Nelson (4)

    Donte Moncrief (6)

    Starting at the top of the arrival list, the following cancellations would be as follows:

    Nelson (4) cancels James (6)

    Moncrief (6) cancels Fort (7)

    Bell (3) is left

    Even though Moncrief and James are believed to have the same round designation, James would first be canceled by the higher designation of Nelson. If this is the way everything plays out, the Steelers would receive a third proud compensatory pick for Le’Veon Bell.

    But what happens if Bell falls from a third round to a fourth round designation? If Bell suffers an injury early in the season and ends up not playing many snaps, the multiplication factor could affect his standing. Bell’s annual salary from his new contract is $13.125 million and the estimated cutoff for a third round designation is around $11 million. If Bell’s value drops below the third round threshold, the cancellation would be the following:

    Nelson (4) cancels Bell (4)

    Moncrief (6) cancels James (6)

    Fort (7) is left

    So the Steelers would not receive a fourth round pick because Steven Nelson’s fourth round designation would cancel Le’Veon Bell. The Steelers will then be left with the seventh round pick from L.J. Fort.

    It is also important to point out that Steven Nelson’s fourth round designation from his yearly salary of $8.5 million is barely above the estimated threshold of $8 million. If Bell holds steady at a third round designation, it really doesn’t affect anything if Nelson drops to a fifth. Either way, he would cancel Jesse James. If both Bell and Nelson were to drop a round, then the Steelers would get the fourth round pick for Bell.

    As you can see, it is still a fluctuating process to determine a compensatory pick even though the signing period has concluded. If everything holds true to where it presently stands, the Steelers will be drafting a player in the third round of the 2020 draft after trading their regularly assigned pick in order to draft Devin Bush.

    But there is still a long way to go.

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/5/9/18537686/steelers-are-in-line-to-get-a-3rd-round-compensatory-pick-in-2020-but-it-could-be-just-a-7th-nfl
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Dulac Expects Steelers To Address Tight End By Training Camp

    By Matthew Marczi
    Posted on May 10, 2019

    Even though the Pittsburgh Steelers selected nine players at eight different positions over the course of the 2019 NFL Draft, there are still a number of areas of the roster at which many are finding fault. By far the three positions most frequently cited are safety, tight end, and outside linebacker, even though they drafted players at the latter two.

    The outside linebacker they drafted, however, is undersized, and the tight end is underexperienced. Tight end is often cited as of particular concern because of the lack of a proven number two player at the position and the history of injuries that dogs Vance McDonald at the top of the depth chart.

    With number three tight end Xavier Grimble being retained on a restricted free agent tender, the Steelers added former quarterback Zach Gentry, who has played the tight end position for the past few years at Michigan. He still has a lot to learn though, particularly in the blocking game, and many wonder how soon he will be able to contribute meaningfully.

    Thatís why a lot of people think itís the area of the roster the Steelers are most likely to continue to address in some way, shape, or form over the course of this offseason. Alex Kozora even had the team carrying four tight ends, with a player yet to be named, on his first 53-man roster prediction of the long offseason.

    Count in Pittsburgh Post-Gazette top man Gerry Dulac as among those who donít believe the Steelers will remain idle here. In response to a question in a recent chat session about depth at certain positions on the roster, he offered, ďthey will address tight end before training campĒ, but he didnít think that would be the case for other areas.

    Of course he makes no mention of whether this is a sense that he got from having actual conversations with people or if this is simply what the thinks will happen through deductive reasoning, so itís impossible to ascertain how useful this information is. But if they do add somebody, based on the roster construction, the logical position to address would be tight end.

    After all, they did it with McDonald in 2017 after adding him via trade in late August. On the roster at the time were Jesse James, Grimble, and David Johnson. They werenít content with that group, so they wanted to make a significant addition, and were able to do so.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/05/du...training-camp/

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    If Kyle Rudolph is on the trading block, should the Steelers have interest?

    Rumors are circulating that Kyle Rudolph could be on the trading block, should the Steelers show interest in the veteran TE?

    By Pittsblitz56
    May 12, 2019, 10:12am EDT

    There are concerns from some Pittsburgh Steelers fans that Kevin Colbert didn’t do enough to address the depth at the tight end position. Some of that stems from the injury history of Vance McDonald and some believe Xavier Grimble is better suited as a third string tight end, not a primary backup.

    On the record, I fall into both of those categories. I love McDonald and what he showed in 2018. He has me wanting more, but in the back of my mind I’m thinking what if Grimble has to carry the work load for several games. Let’s just say I’m not as optimistic as I would like to be in that scenario.

    The options that remain at that position are very limited...until...rumors started swirling Minnesota Vikings tight end Kyle Rudolph could be a possible trade option.

    I understand how rumors tend to go but I had heard mention of this right after the Minnesota Vikings drafted Irv Smith Jr. Now it has resurfaced again after the Vikings and Rudolph have come to a stalemate on talks that involved an extension.

    This from the NFL Network’s Ian Rappaport:

    The #Vikings had held active extension talks with veteran TE Kyle Rudolph, but those broke off this morning, sources say. With Minnesota drafting TE Irv Smith and Rudolph due $7.5M, this development could lead to a trade elsewhere. There is interest around the NFL.
    — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) May 10, 2019
    The question remains, do Kevin Colbert and the Pittsburgh Steelers have interest in trading for Kyle Rudolph? If so, what would they have to give up, and should the Steelers be willing to part with either draft picks or players to make the move?

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...umors-nfl-news
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    TE Lee Smith Makes Sense As Fit For Steelers

    By Alex Kozora
    Posted on May 3, 2019

    There’s no doubt the two positions that the Pittsburgh Steelers could further address coming out of the draft are tight end and safety. That’s even after choosing Zach Gentry in the 5th round. But when your group is Vance “Can He Stay Healthy” McDonald, Xavier Grimble, and Gentry, it’s not a bad idea to explore options.

    Oakland handed Pittsburgh another option yesterday. They released TE Lee Smith, someone who is worth a look in training camp.

    Don’t mistake Smith for anything more than what he is. But what he’s a talented, block-first (and second…and third) 31 year old tight end who can make the tight end battle an actual competition while rounding out depth. At 6’6 265, this is your dude.

    McDonald is an excellent #1 tight end. But even after missing just one game last year, the opener versus Cleveland, he played a fairly even rotation of snaps with Jesse James. So don’t expect McDonald’s snap count to shoot up to 90% just because James signed with Detroit. Pittsburgh liked Grimble enough to slap a tender on him, perhaps protecting themselves assuming they were losing James, and he currently stands as the #2. Then there’s Gentry, who the team has admitted is a work in progress, even if they like his ceiling.

    Behind those three? There’s not much to work with. Jake McGee tore his Achilles last spring and wasn’t tendered and Bucky Hodges mysteriously released before the draft. The only other names on the roster are Kevin Rader, Christian Scotland-Williamson and…I guess, Trevor Wood. Rader’s never made an NFL team, CSW is still technically exempt from a roster spot, and Wood was brought in as much for his long snapping duties as anything he did at tight end. Point is, don’t expect any three of those guys to make a serious push for the 53.

    So why not Lee? He sure won’t be expensive. 31 year old blocker who made $2 million in 2018? Probably can get him for half of that or even a minimum salary benefit contract. Don’t expect anything from him as a receiver, though he caught this three yard touchdown against the Steelers last season, but that’s not why you’re signing him.

    Bringing Smith in makes you feel a lot better about the group as a whole. Gentry doesn’t progress like planned? Send him to the practice squad, make Smith the #3. Someone gets hurt? Again, Smith slides in. They all pan out? Good problem to have, make the best decision then. And if you’re worried about the comp formula, don’t. Just like Mark Barron, Smith doesn’t count against it because he was released.

    Sign Smith now instead of waiting for a camp cut or mid-August trade. Maybe you find a better player but you’ll also acquire someone trying to jump on the moving train, the season already starting. Just like the tea’ms philosophy in the draft, he adds flexibility to the roster and a solid insurance policy.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2019/05/te...-for-steelers/
    Taking his talents to Buffalo:

    Bills bring back tight end Lee Smith

    Posted by Michael David Smith on May 13, 2019, 9:39 AM EDT

    Free agent tight end Lee Smith is returning to Buffalo.

    The Bills announced this morning that they have signed Smith. He previously played in Buffalo from 2011 to 2014 and played the last four years in Oakland. He was a 2011 fifth-round pick of the Patriots, but New England released him as part of its final roster cuts after his rookie preseason.

    The 6-foot-6, 265-pound Smith is more a blocker than a receiver, and the Bills have been looking to upgrade at blocking tight end this offseason. Buffalo is also working on converting Jake Fisher from tackle to tight end.

    The Raiders cut Smith early this month as part of the major shakeup that Jon Gruden is making to his offensive personnel in his second season in Oakland.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/13/bills-bring-back-tight-end-lee-smith/
    If we want to explore a possible a blocking TE option, here is a former Cincy OT drafted in 2nd round trying to convert to TE, who was let go after the Lee Smith signing:

    Bills cut Jake Fisher in post-minicamp roster shuffling

    Posted by Josh Alper on May 13, 2019, 11:08 AM EDT

    Jake Fisher set out to make the switch from offensive tackle to tight end this offseason and signed with the Bills in March to pursue that goal, but it will have to play out with another team.

    The Bills announced that Fisher has been released on Monday. The move comes after they signed veteran tight end Lee Smith and added tight end Moral Stephens after a tryout at their rookie minicamp.

    Tyler Kroft, third-round pick Dawson Knox, Jason Croom and seventh-round pick Tommy Sweeney are also on hand at tight end.

    In addition to announcing the Stephens signing, the Bills also announced that they signed safety Abraham Wallace, offensive lineman Garrett McGhin and defensive tackle Quindarius Thagard after tryouts over the weekend. Running back Keith Ford was released along with Fisher.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/05/13/bills-cut-jake-fisher-in-post-minicamp-roster-shuffling/
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Chiefs trade for Darron Lee
    By Charean Williams | May 15, 2019, 9:16 PM EDT

    The Jets have agreed to trade linebacker Darron Lee to the Chiefs for a sixth-round draft pick in 2020, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports.

    It’s the first move for the Jets since they fired General Manager Mike Maccagnan and named head coach Adam Gase the interim G.M.

    The trade is not a surprise given the Jets signed C.J. Mosley in free agency. The Jets declined the fifth-year option on Lee’s contract earlier this month.

    Lee has only a $1.8 million base salary this season and gets a new start in a contract year. The 20th overall pick in 2016 was a disappointment in his three seasons in New York.

    He made 36 starts, three interceptions, five pass breakups, 74 tackles and four sacks.

    The Chiefs, who have revamped their defense this offseason, are paying a low price for a player who once was a highly rated prospect.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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