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    53 man roster projections

    This 53 man projection seems pretty good, although I personally would prefer to keep a 10th LB (Ulysses Gilbert) over a 10th DB (Jordan Dangerfield), since we've been experimenting in camp using CB's (Sutton and Hilton) and even a LB who formerly played S (Barron) in quasi-safety depth roles behind our primary safety trio of Edmunds, Davis, and Kelly.

    Also, ideally, I would like to see if we could trade Dobbs (keeping Hodges) and trade Rogers (keeping Spencer), maybe for improved TE depth or future late round draft picks next year.

    Otherwise, though, looks pretty solid to me.

    Steelers' 53-man roster projection includes six corners, five pass-rushers

    2:34 AM ET

    Jeremy Fowler
    ESPN Staff Writer

    The Pittsburgh Steelers will cut their roster to 53 players by 4 p.m. ET Saturday. Here’s a projection:

    QUARTERBACK (3): Ben Roethlisberger, Mason Rudolph, Joshua Dobbs

    Rudolph has positioned himself to win the No. 2 quarterback job. If the Steelers make that official this week, they can shop Dobbs or keep him as the No. 3. Thursday's preseason finale could be a showcase for Dobbs. No. 4 quarterback Devlin Hodges has shown a deft passing touch but might be more of a practice squad option.

    RUNNING BACK (3): James Conner, Jaylen Samuels, Benny Snell Jr.

    Draft picks from three consecutive years complete the tailback lineup, though Snell needs to do more after averaging just 2.1 yards per carry in the first two preseason games and sitting out the third with a groin issue. He'll play in the finale and needs to perform. Snell has shown a willingness to tackle on special teams, which helps. Veteran Trey Edmunds is an option for the third spot, but the tie goes to the draft pick.

    FULLBACK (1): Roosevelt Nix

    Nix played 110 offensive snaps last season in a position that many teams have abandoned. But the Steelers still value him for blocking and special teams.

    WIDE RECEIVER (6): JuJu Smith-Schuster, Donte Moncrief, James Washington, Ryan Switzer, Diontae Johnson, Eli Rogers

    Johnson has missed practice time with various injuries but has shown enough route savvy to secure a spot. Rogers and Switzer play similar roles, but both bring value -- Switzer with versatility and as a kick/punt returner, Rogers as a slot option to beat man coverage. Johnny Holton and Diontae Spencer have made compelling cases for backup jobs.

    TIGHT END (3): Vance McDonald, Xavier Grimble, Zach Gentry

    Gentry, the 6-foot-6 rookie, hasn't shined consistently but doesn't have much competition for that third spot. Don't be shocked if the Steelers try to make a trade for depth.

    OFFENSIVE LINE (9): Alejandro Villanueva, Ramon Foster, Maurkice Pouncey, David DeCastro, Matt Feiler, B.J. Finney, Chukwuma Okorafor, Zach Banner, Fred Johnson

    This lineup is short on centers behind Pouncey and Finney, so Patrick Morris is an option here, but the Steelers are going heavy on reserve tackles with Okorafor, Hawkins and Banner. Coach Mike Tomlin likes the way they've competed.

    DEFENSIVE LINE (6): Cameron Heyward, Javon Hargrave, Stephon Tuitt, Tyson Alualu, Dan McCullers, Isaiah Buggs

    Five of these spots have been solidified for months, with three starters (Heyward, Hargrave, Tuitt), the solid swing guy (Alualu) and a luxury bulldozer (McCullers). Buggs, a sixth-round rookie, has work to do, but the Steelers probably want to refine this project.

    LINEBACKER (9): T.J. Watt, Vince Williams, Devin Bush, Bud Dupree, Mark Barron, Anthony Chickillo, Ola Adeniyi, Tyler Matakevich, Tuzar Skipper

    It's a tough call between Skipper and inside linebacker Ulysees Gilbert III, and maybe they keep both, but Skipper has stated his case with three sacks and stout play against the run. The Steelers can't go wrong with Gilbert, either. Special teams likely will determine this battle. Whether Adeniyi, the fourth pass-rusher, can return by Week 2 could sway the numbers in Gilbert's favor.

    SECONDARY (10): Joe Haden, Steven Nelson, Sean Davis, Terrell Edmunds, Mike Hilton, Justin Layne, Artie Burns, Cameron Sutton, Kameron Kelly, Jordan Dangerfield

    The Steelers have featured Kelly heavily in defensive packages, including a three-safety nickel look. Dangerfield slides into the fourth safety/special-teams role. Burns responded to last year's struggles with a steady camp and preseason. Two former draft picks, safety Marcus Allen and corner Brian Allen, are on the outside here, but those decisions could go either way. Allen helped his cause with a forced fumble and an open-field tackle to save a first down in the third preseason game.

    SPECIALIST (3): Chris Boswell, Jordan Berry, Kam Canaday

    Boswell made all but two kicks throughout camp. He appears to have his confidence back. Punter Ian Berryman has a big leg, but Berry just signed a two-year extension and hasn't done anything drastic to lose the job.

    https://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/31129/steelers-53-man-roster-projection-includes-six-corners-five-pass-rushers
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    If our final 53 man roster ended up being exactly how Fowler predicts, then here is where I would look for my 10 man practice squad:

    QB Devlin Hodges
    RB Trey Edmunds
    WR Diontae Spencer
    WR Johnnie Holton
    *TE Christian Scotland-Williamson
    OT Jerald Hawkins
    C/G Patrick Morris
    DE Henry Mondeaux
    LB Ulysses Gilbert
    LB Sutton Smith
    S Marcus Allen

    *TE CSW does not count against our 10 man P.S. as a part of the international player program...we get to keep him around as an 11th guy on our P.S. essentially for free.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    Skipper and Gilbert ought to both be on the 53. I don't know why we didn't have Skipper in on STs this preseason. If Gilbert and Skipper can handle ST responsibilities, either Chick or Dirty Red could be expendable. More upside for our D with the young guys, IMO. If we put Gilbert and/or Skipper on the PS, they'd likely get poached by another team.
    Last edited by Buzz; 08-28-2019 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Skipper and Gilbert ought to both be on the 53. I don't know why we didn't have Skipper in on STs this preseason. If Gilbert and Skipper can handle ST responsibilities, either Chick or Dirty Red could be expendable. More upside for our D with the young guys, IMO. If we put Gilbert and/or Skipper on the PS, they'd likely get poached by another team.
    No way Chickillo isn't on the Final 53. Too much experience and can play both OLB positions and Special Teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Skipper and Gilbert ought to both be on the 53. I don't know why we didn't have Skipper in on STs this preseason. If Gilbert and Skipper can handle ST responsibilities, either Chick or Dirty Red could be expendable. More upside for our D with the young guys, IMO. If we put Gilbert and/or Skipper on the PS, they'd likely get poached by another team.
    Matakevich is probably the best special teams player on the roster. Neither he nor Chickillo are going anywhere. I can't imagine the Steelers going into the season with just 2 UDFAs, a rookie and a first year player, at backup OLB. Depending on his meniscus, I suppose another option is putting Ola on IR again and Skipper on the 53.

    I would move Fred Johnson to the PS instead of keeping 9 OL to make a spot for Gilbert. Skipper is hard because he doesn't play special teams, but he does everything else so well I think he's on the 53 unless he completely bombs against Carolina.
    Last edited by phillyesq; 08-28-2019 at 01:00 PM.

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    When are cut downs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    Matakevich is probably the best special teams player on the roster. Neither he nor Chickillo are going anywhere. I can't imagine the Steelers going into the season with just 2 UDFAs, a rookie and a first year player, at backup OLB. Depending on his meniscus, I suppose another option is putting Ola on IR again and Skipper on the 53.

    I would move Fred Johnson to the PS instead of keeping 9 OL to make a spot for Gilbert. Skipper is hard because he doesn't play special teams, but he does everything else so well I think he's on the 53 unless he completely bombs against Carolina.
    Matakevich is probably the best special teams player on the roster. Neither he nor Chickillo are going anywhere.
    Wait phillyesq. Special teams are on the field for maybe 8 snaps. You are saying keep a guy on the roster excels for 10% of the game over guys that could dominate for 50%..? I would prefer the latter and train him up for the former.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    When are cut downs?
    Saturday i believe...
    I wish people would/could leave politics out of a Steelers Football Forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Wait phillyesq. Special teams are on the field for maybe 8 snaps. You are saying keep a guy on the roster excels for 10% of the game over guys that could dominate for 50%..? I would prefer the latter and train him up for the former.
    Special teams are WAY more than 8 snaps.

    Every time your team kicks off.
    Every time your team receives a kickoff.
    Every time your team punts.
    Every time your team receives a punt.
    Every time your team attempts a field goal.
    Every time your team tries to block an opponent's field goal attempt.
    Every time your team attempts a PAT kick.
    Every time your team tries to block an opponent's PAT kick attempt.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    I can live with the 53 projection except for Dobbs. It will be a huge mistake not to keep Hodges. I think that kid has a legit shot at being Ben's eventual replacement.

    However this shakes out, we're going to have our best PS ever.

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