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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    I see Bush vs. Wilson as somewhat similar to Shazier vs. Mosley a few years ago. I'd say that Bush might have a higher ceiling than Wilson, but also a lower floor as well (greater bust potential). Wilson is more of a what-you-see-is-what-you-get type of guy. I liked Shazier more than Mosley back then because he had otherworldly athleticism in a solid LB's body. The reason that I'm leaning the other way this time (Wilson over Bush right now) is because when you have an undersized guy like Bush, you want to see that elite level athleticism to make up for it, but he's not in Shazier's league. I see him more like a Deone Buchanon or Mark Barron type. Very useful in today's NFL, but not the complete package entirely. If Wilson were gone at 36, though, I'd take a swing at Bush and try to use him creatively. He could be what we wanted LJ Fort to be.
    Nice in depth analysis. With that said, I want Wilson even more and I want to run from Bush even faster. Wilson seems like a plug and play and we really , really need that now.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Great thread Ruthless. One thing I'll say is I believe by the time draft day rolls around Mullen of Clemson will be lumped into the group of first round corners you mentioned. Baker ,Murphy and Greedy who I agree are all likely off the board day 1 but the Mullen kid I believe tests well. If that happens he's going to go early since he checks a bunch of boxes already. How early idk but he runs a quick 10 split and a sub 4.5 n he should from what u c on tape so if those boxes get checked we'll need that late 1 or early 2 from the AB trade to have a shot imho.

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    I’m terrified of Colbert taking a cornerback/ safety in the first round.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    I’m terrified of Colbert taking a cornerback/ safety in the first round.
    I have to admit I'm with you on that.

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    Now that we know what we got in return for AB, it's about time to do a 2.0, eh?

    My initial plan had us trading multiple picks in order to obtain a starting CB (Xavier Rhodes) to play opposite Haden, but we have since signed Steven Nelson to fill that role.

    The signing of Donte Moncrief helps to alleviate the loss of AB somewhat, but we could still add another WR on day two of the draft, since this draft seems particularly deep at WR in rounds 2 & 3, plus we've had success adding wideouts on day two of the draft in the past.

    Our biggest hole right now is at ILB, so I'm going to make a bold move to go up and get the best possible solution. Buffalo appeared to be willing to move down from #9 to #20 when we were discussing a possible AB trade, so maybe they would still be willing to drop down those 11 spots in exchange for some of our extra draft capital...they have many needs to fill, after all If Devin White is available at #9, I'd offer them both of the picks we got from Oakland in the AB trade (3.66 and 5.141) plus our 3rd round pick in 2020 as well. We could get the guy that we really need to solidify our defense as a whole and that would still leave us with 8 total picks this year (1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 6, 6, 7).

    Trade 1.20, 3.66, 5.141, and a 2020 3rd to BUF for 1.9

    1.9 ILB Devin White 6'1" 240 LSU
    2.52 WR Kelvin Harmon 6'3" 215 NC State
    3.83 OLB Chase Winovich 6'3" 255 Michigan
    4.122 TE Josh Oliver 6'5" 250 San Jose State
    6.175 FS Marquis Blair 6'2" 195 Utah
    6.192 RB Travis Homer 5'11" 195 Miami
    6.207 OG Hjalte Froholdt 6'5" 315 Arkansas
    7.219 DE Armon Watts 6'5" 298 Arkansas
    Trade 1.20, 3.66, 5.141, & a 3rd round pick in 2020 to BUF for 1.9

    1.9 ILB Devin White
    2.52 WR Kelvin Harmon
    3.83 OLB Chase Winovich
    4.122 TE Josh Oliver
    6.175 FS Marquis Blair
    6.192 RB Travis Homer
    6.207 OG Hjalte Froholdt
    7.219 DE Armon Watts

    or

    Trade 2.52, 3.66, 3.83, & 5.141 to SEA for 1.21 & 4.124

    1.20 TE T.J. Hockenson
    1.21 ILB Devin Bush
    4.122 OLB Christian Miller
    4.124 WR David Sills
    6.175 FS Marquis Blair
    6.192 RB Travis Homer
    6.207 OG Hjalte Froholdt
    7.219 DE Armon Watts


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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    Now that we know what we got in return for AB, it's about time to do a 2.0, eh?

    My initial plan had us trading multiple picks in order to obtain a starting CB (Xavier Rhodes) to play opposite Haden, but we have since signed Steven Nelson to fill that role.

    The signing of Donte Moncrief helps to alleviate the loss of AB somewhat, but we could still add another WR on day two of the draft, since this draft seems particularly deep at WR in rounds 2 & 3, plus we've had success adding wideouts on day two of the draft in the past.

    Our biggest hole right now is at ILB, so I'm going to make a bold move to go up and get the best possible solution. Buffalo appeared to be willing to move down from #9 to #20 when we were discussing a possible AB trade, so maybe they would still be willing to drop down those 11 spots in exchange for some of our extra draft capital...they have many needs to fill, after all If Devin White is available at #9, I'd offer them both of the picks we got from Oakland in the AB trade (3.66 and 5.141) plus our 3rd round pick in 2020 as well. We could get the guy that we really need to solidify our defense as a whole and that would still leave us with 8 total picks this year (1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 6, 6, 7).

    Trade 1.20, 3.66, 5.141, and a 2020 3rd to BUF for 1.9

    1.9 ILB Devin White 6'1" 240 LSU
    2.52 WR Kelvin Harmon 6'3" 215 NC State
    3.83 OLB Chase Winovich 6'3" 255 Michigan
    4.122 TE Josh Oliver 6'5" 250 San Jose State
    6.175 FS Marquis Blair 6'2" 195 Utah
    6.192 RB Travis Homer 5'11" 195 Miami
    6.207 OG Hjalte Froholdt 6'5" 315 Arkansas
    7.219 DE Armon Watts 6'5" 298 Arkansas
    I like that draft.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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