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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    FWIW, this is why I think we don't add above average to elite secondary talent. The UFA costs for corners is very high and we usually don't have the room.

    And because the UFA value is so high, guys that look like they can be elite CBs tend to go much earlier than we pick. It's too bad we didn't really **** the bed this year and get up to the same kind of pick where we got Ben.
    So would you try and trade up since we are closer to the top then we normally are? A trade up that might include Brown?
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Maniac View Post
    So would you try and trade up since we are closer to the top then we normally are? A trade up that might include Brown?
    I think you asked me this before.

    I'd try to trade up if I thought there was a "sure thing". But I don't think we have the ammunition to get into something like the top 10.

    AB isn't on the trade chart, but the one I found says that to land the 10th pick (1300) we'd need to give up something like our 1st round pick at 20 (850), our 2nd round pick at 52 (380), our fourth round pick at 115 (64), and our 7th (13) [we overpay by 7 in this case].

    If they would do AB and our 1st for a top 10 pick, I'd probably do it if I thought I could get someone I projected to be an elite defender. But if I was Denver in this case, I'd be upset about trading away a potential franchise player at 10.

    https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Blitz View Post
    FWIW, this is why I think we don't add above average to elite secondary talent. The UFA costs for corners is very high and we usually don't have the room.

    And because the UFA value is so high, guys that look like they can be elite CBs tend to go much earlier than we pick. It's too bad we didn't really **** the bed this year and get up to the same kind of pick where we got Ben.
    I'm not sure that there is a top 15 talent at CB in the draft this particular year. Baker from Georgia, Greedy from LSU, Murphy from Washington, and Oruwariye all seem to be late 1 or early 2 type of guys. I think mostly d-lineman types and hopefully QB's come off the board early. Not seeing any run on DB's until later. We may actually end up with the pick of the litter of corners if we do fall in love with one of them, but it does not seem to be a particularly good class for the secondary. .
    Trade 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd for 1.8 or 1.9

    1.8 or 1.9 ILB Devin White
    3.66 OLB Chase Winovich
    3.83 S Amani Hooker
    4.122 TE Dawson Knox
    5.141 CB Kris Boyd
    6.175 WR Keelan Doss
    6.192 G Beau Benzschawel
    6.207 RB Kerrith Whyte
    7.219 DE Armon Watts

    or

    1.20 CB Byron Murphy
    2.52 OLB D'Andre Walker
    3.66 S Darnell Savage
    3.83 WR Miles Boykin
    4.122 ILB David Long
    5.141 C/G Ross Pierschbacher
    6.175 TE Kahele Warring
    6.192 NT Daylon Mack
    6.207 RB Devine Ozigbo
    7.219 DE Albert Huggins

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    This draft is loaded with defensive talent minus the secondary which is a bit thin up top. I think we should sit tight in this draft.
    Jachai Polite
    Mack Wilson
    Byron Murphy
    Christian Wilkins
    Dexter Lawrence
    Greedy Williams
    Devin White
    Ed Oliver
    Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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    I like that Mack Wilson suggestion
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    This draft is loaded with defensive talent minus the secondary which is a bit thin up top. I think we should sit tight in this draft.
    Jachai Polite
    Mack Wilson
    Byron Murphy
    Christian Wilkins
    Dexter Lawrence
    Greedy Williams
    Devin White
    Ed Oliver

    Thanks to you (and Ruth) for the info on prospects and the prospect pool.

    I don't really follow college players, so I like when people provide info on potential draft targets.

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