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    Quote Originally Posted by williar View Post
    Oh, so, you think this is all AB's fault. He's the problem...
    the Steelers have other problems also but yes, AB is definitely at fault here.

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    Football fans for years have been critical of scouts because Antonio Brown slid 6th round. I think we’ve seen in the last few days why. There were issues while he was in college, so he fell. Teams know what they are doing://www.12up.com/posts/6261825-it-s-now-as-clear-as-day-why-antonio-brown-was-overlooked-in-2010-nfl-draft?view_source=taboola_feed&view_medium=article _recommendations&item_position=0://www.12up.com/posts/6261825-it-s-now-as-clear-as-day-why-antonio-brown-was-overlooked-in-2010-nfl-draft?view_source=taboola_feed&view_medium=article _recommendations&item_position=0
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    Football fans for years have been critical of scouts because Antonio Brown slid 6th round. I think we’ve seen in the last few days why. There were issues while he was in college, so he fell. Teams know what they are doing


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    One of the most important parts of an NFL (https://www.12up.com/leagues/nfl) team's evaluation of a player is learning about his character and reputation as a teammate. Evidently, in 2010, many teams felt that although Brown was a very skilled wide receiver, he had the potential to be an issue in the locker room.


    Brown's actions have clearly shown that he's a selfish player that can affect a team's morale. In the most important game of the season, Brown did not play because he chose to put himself above the team. (https://www.12up.com/posts/6261551-mike-tomlin-essentially-calls-out-antonio-brown-for-not-communicating-with-team)
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    One of the most important parts of an NFL (https://www.12up.com/leagues/nfl) team's evaluation of a player is learning about his character and reputation as a teammate. Evidently, in 2010, many teams felt that although Brown was a very skilled wide receiver, he had the potential to be an issue in the locker room.


    Brown's actions have clearly shown that he's a selfish player that can affect a team's morale. In the most important game of the season, Brown did not play because he chose to put himself above the team. (https://www.12up.com/posts/6261551-mike-tomlin-essentially-calls-out-antonio-brown-for-not-communicating-with-team)
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    Football fans for years have been critical of scouts because Antonio Brown slid 6th round. I think we’ve seen in the last few days why. There were issues while he was in college, so he fell. Teams know what they are doing://www.12up.com/posts/6261825-it-s-now-as-clear-as-day-why-antonio-brown-was-overlooked-in-2010-nfl-draft?view_source=taboola_feed&view_medium=article _recommendations&item_position=0://www.12up.com/posts/6261825-it-s-now-as-clear-as-day-why-antonio-brown-was-overlooked-in-2010-nfl-draft?view_source=taboola_feed&view_medium=article _recommendations&item_position=0
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    One of the most important parts of an NFL (https://www.12up.com/leagues/nfl) team's evaluation of a player is learning about his character and reputation as a teammate. Evidently, in 2010, many teams felt that although Brown was a very skilled wide receiver, he had the potential to be an issue in the locker room.


    Brown's actions have clearly shown that he's a selfish player that can affect a team's morale. In the most important game of the season, Brown did not play because he chose to put himself above the team. (https://www.12up.com/posts/6261551-mike-tomlin-essentially-calls-out-antonio-brown-for-not-communicating-with-team)
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    One of the most important parts of an NFL (https://www.12up.com/leagues/nfl) team's evaluation of a player is learning about his character and reputation as a teammate. Evidently, in 2010, many teams felt that although Brown was a very skilled wide receiver, he had the potential to be an issue in the locker room.


    Brown's actions have clearly shown that he's a selfish player that can affect a team's morale. In the most important game of the season, Brown did not play because he chose to put himself above the team. (https://www.12up.com/posts/6261551-mike-tomlin-essentially-calls-out-antonio-brown-for-not-communicating-with-team)
    Have a tough time agreeing with premise of some of these comments. It's suggesting they should not have even drafted Brown?!?! Disagree. ...

    'he had the potential to be an issue in the locker room'.... that statement is true for probably 50% of the players in football.
    What no one could know years ago is whether Brown's attitude would mature into those of a professional football player or stay as a recalcitrant teenager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER View Post
    all those catches and TD this year and he's still crying for the ball. Crying to have the QB force him the ball even when covered.
    gets upset when JuJU is named team MVP.
    Facebook lives a locker room speech
    refers to himself in the 3rd person as "ronald"
    tells ed Bouchete he's a rascist when ed questioned some of his BS
    called out by ex teammate ryan clark as being a me first player and somene who would become a "monster" when he signed for big money
    gets into a heated argument with Haley on the sidelines when he wasn't getting the ball
    throws a hissy fit by tossing a cooler around when he thinks he's not getting the ball enough

    Yeah, Ben's the Problem

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    Ben threw a hissy fit when they drafted Mason Rudolph, Threw AB, the rookie Washington, the OC, teammates and Coach and everybody else under the bus repeatedly when it is his fault he lost the game.

    Ben's fired 3 OC's and working on a fourth. Sabotaged Haley and everybody else because he is still too stupid to learn to read a defense and audible into better plays. Wouldn't run a QB sneak when it mattered.

    Always talking stupid to the media and specializing in his drama queenery... And you wonder why AB does what he does, well, he learned from the best. Queen B himself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by williar View Post
    Ben threw a hissy fit when they drafted Mason Rudolph, Threw AB, the rookie Washington, the OC, teammates and Coach and everybody else under the bus repeatedly when it is his fault he lost the game.

    Ben's fired 3 OC's and working on a fourth. Sabotaged Haley and everybody else because he is still too stupid to learn to read a defense and audible into better plays. Wouldn't run a QB sneak when it mattered.

    Always talking stupid to the media and specializing in his drama queenery... And you wonder why AB does what he does, well, he learned from the best. Queen B himself...
    wow. Grind that ax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by williar View Post
    Ben threw a hissy fit when they drafted Mason Rudolph, Threw AB, the rookie Washington, the OC, teammates and Coach and everybody else under the bus repeatedly when it is his fault he lost the game.

    Ben's fired 3 OC's and working on a fourth. Sabotaged Haley and everybody else because he is still too stupid to learn to read a defense and audible into better plays. Wouldn't run a QB sneak when it mattered.

    Always talking stupid to the media and specializing in his drama queenery... And you wonder why AB does what he does, well, he learned from the best. Queen B himself...
    Ben and Arians were and are still butt Buddies...Got Haley fired...No doubt about that
    Last edited by Disco1981; 01-04-2019 at 12:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBucks View Post
    wow. Grind that ax.
    seriously

    I've seen some stupid things he's writen over the years about Ben, But this one takes the cake

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    Quote Originally Posted by williar View Post
    Ben threw a hissy fit when they drafted Mason Rudolph, Threw AB, the rookie Washington, the OC, teammates and Coach and everybody else under the bus repeatedly when it is his fault he lost the game.

    Ben's fired 3 OC's and working on a fourth. Sabotaged Haley and everybody else because he is still too stupid to learn to read a defense and audible into better plays. Wouldn't run a QB sneak when it mattered.

    Always talking stupid to the media and specializing in his drama queenery... And you wonder why AB does what he does, well, he learned from the best. Queen B himself...

    Ben's the reason haley didn't get another contract but AB, who confronted him on the sidelines over not getting the ball enough and threw a tantrum throwing the cooler of the bench, getting paid the most of any wide receiver in the game wanted him back

    thats what you're saying here?

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    Slightly different take on AB's actions. THIS seems a bit more plausible:

    whole story here: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/03/an...de-possibility

    Then you have Brown, who brings with him some of the standard diva receiver characteristics. He’s tough, and competitive, and as one staffer said, “Hands down, he’s the hardest worker on the team. I couldn’t even tell you who number two is, that’s how easy it is to say that.”

    The flip side of that is, he wants that work to equal results, and getting results means getting the ball. And when he doesn’t, it can be a problem. There are examples, those there explain, in every game, where Brown will run a flawless route, be impossibly open, and Roethlisberger will just miss him. That eats at Brown. “His work ethic and his me-against-the-world attitude is what makes him great,” one coach says, “but it also creates some issues.”


    And to put one element together with the other, for certain players, there’s what’s been referred to internally in the Steelers building as “necessary tolerance.” Le’Veon Bell was afforded it. Martavis Bryant got it. Roethlisberger has it too. As does Brown.

    So why did that combustible mix finally erupt this time around?

    Brown has explained to those close to him that he didn’t feel some of his teammates were as invested in 2018 as he was, and it was showing up in their work, and he was fed up with it. The standard, as he saw it, was slipping. And his side of the story holds that his handling of last week—from the Wednesday outburst to the Saturday no-show—was a manifestation of how he felt about the state of the team.


    Of course, that reaction put Tomlin—as good at managing conflict as any coach in the NFL—in a thorny spot. Sit the best receiver in the NFL against Cincinnati in Week 17, and risk killing the team’s fading playoff hopes? Or let him play and send the message to the locker room that talent trumps all? In taking the former path, Tomlin, and the Steelers, finally drew a line in the sand with Brown.

    It was, essentially, showing him the point where his problems outweighed his production, and that there was a point where football could be taken away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post

    Brown has explained to those close to him that he didn’t feel some of his teammates were as invested in 2018 as he was, and it was showing up in their work, and he was fed up with it. The standard, as he saw it, was slipping. And his side of the story holds that his handling of last week—from the Wednesday outburst to the Saturday no-show—was a manifestation of how he felt about the state of the team.


    So it was because Brown thought his teammates weren't invested in winning? That's why, in the week leading up to the most important game of the year, he skipped practices, refused to answer calls, went AWOL for a mandatory meeting, and then had his agent call the morning of the game saying, "AB is ready to play"?

    Makes no sense. Not buying it.

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