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    The Bad, The Ugly, and The Uglier

    I like being positive as much as the next guy and I was thankful to see the Steelers come out victorious against the Pats. However, the realist inside of me feels like this is a shallow victory that's collectively getting us too excited. It feels like the Pats might just be done. They lost that game more than we won it.

    I'm totally confused this season. I don't know if we have good players or bad players? Good coaches or bad coaches? The only thing I know for sure is one of the following 3 people are going to be the reason the Steelers will be watching the playoffs from home.


    1. Big Ben - The turnover machine himself. Leads the league in INTs. This is bad on so many levels. He's got a great Oline, great weapons all around him, and he's got the OC he's always wanted. He doesn't get sacked like he used to. He's got the freedom to make plays and he's turned into a brilliant disaster.

    Take any other top QB in the league and put him in Pittsburgh and the QB is probably an all pro. Ben on the other hand makes mistakes that most rookies don't make. He makes them a lot. And leads the league in not being able to protect the ball. Odd are, this will cost us a playoff spot. In fact, it probably already has. He's dug us such a deep hole already this season.


    2. Mike Tomlin - 0 Challenges won in his last 10 Challenges. Take his red bean bag away from him. Seriously just hide it. Nothing good comes from him challenging a ruling on the field.

    But this is a bigger issue. It shows our coach cannot adapt. He cannot change. He is what he is. He's better than most give him credit for. But he's also much worse than most will admit. Odds are in the next 2 weeks, Tomlin will do something boneheaded that will cost us the playoffs. My gut says his gut will be wrong. That's a pretty safe bet.


    3. The Wizard of Boz - The Steelers should play the song, "If I only had a brain" every time he walks on the field. His head is so fudged up, we need to double reverse psychology him. His FG and XP misses are legendary. But when you layer them on top of Big Benterception and Mike "the Gut" Tomlin's bizarre premonitions, it's a confluence of disaster.

    We're mediocre enough that we can overcome a lot of mistakes. And I think we will to give fans false hope. Only to have that hope snatched away by another Wizard of Boz missed FG or 2, or a FG and XP. I'm pretty sure Boz can contribute to 2 losses. Ben and Mike might have a flash of brilliance that can shine for a game. Boz has nothing.


    What do you guys think? Who is most likely responsible for getting the Steelers players a longer vacation this offseason?

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    If it happens - and there's a very good chance they can get hot like the rats did a few years ago, I think it will be Boz. With any luck we won't have to debate how the season ended. But if it dies prematurely, that's my guess. I hate to say it too because the kid has been money the last several years. But it's a head game now. I don't care how he kicks in an empty stadium, I care how he kicks with 65k in the stands and perhaps in the playoffs. the pressure is only going to go up. I don't know who is available in december, but i'm pretty sure the pickings are slim. We are likely going to ride him to the superbowl or bust - I just really hope for his sake, it's not a missed kick that ends the season. Always been a big fan of the kid.
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    I hope it's not Boz because the pressure to release him in the off-season would be intense. Kickers are 'over-cut' in the league IMO. A guy will miss a few, get released and then go on to be a solid kicker somewhere else (Suisham, for example). Before this year, Boswell has been money -- and I expect he will return to form next year.
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    While I thoroughly enjoyed this victory and I see it as the end of the reign of the Patriots as we know them - I have to agree 99%

    BEN does have great weapons - but outside of JJSS & AB he doesn't have much - McDonald is good, not great. SWITZER has been our 3rd WR?? That kid simply scares me!!
    Not sure if anyone notice his blunder the other day - ball hits a Patriot on a punt and he tries to dive for it??
    Back to BEN - the Steelers have one of the best OLINE's in the NFL but they have the LOWEST RUN% in the NFL???
    Unfortunately this leads to more predicatability in our PASS GAME

    As for TOMLIN - said the other day - take that red flag away from him.
    He coaches from emotion in which he loses all rationale - begging for a call instead of seeing what is really going on.

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    Chat on Post-Gazette today:

    Kryder: MT lost his 10th challenge in a row and it would have been 11th if not for the “forward progressed stopped” call on the field. Why do you think he struggles so much determining how to challenge a play that he actually has a chance of winning?


    Ray Fittipaldo: Because he doesn't have anyone in the press box to help him. He watches the video board just like everyone else in the stadium and makes his determination. That's difficult, but it's especially difficult on the road where the other team is controlling what's shown. Other teams would be dumb to show any replays against the Steelers because Tomlin has made it known that's how he makes his decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Chat on Post-Gazette today:

    Kryder: MT lost his 10th challenge in a row and it would have been 11th if not for the “forward progressed stopped” call on the field. Why do you think he struggles so much determining how to challenge a play that he actually has a chance of winning?


    Ray Fittipaldo: Because he doesn't have anyone in the press box to help him. He watches the video board just like everyone else in the stadium and makes his determination. That's difficult, but it's especially difficult on the road where the other team is controlling what's shown. Other teams would be dumb to show any replays against the Steelers because Tomlin has made it known that's how he makes his decisions.
    Why, after all this time, and all these missed challenges, does he have no one to help him review replays? Is he just that stubborn, or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Why, after all this time, and all these missed challenges, does he have no one to help him review replays? Is he just that stubborn, or what?
    Very legit criticism here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    I like being positive as much as the next guy and I was thankful to see the Steelers come out victorious against the Pats. However, the realist inside of me feels like this is a shallow victory that's collectively getting us too excited. It feels like the Pats might just be done. They lost that game more than we won it.

    I'm totally confused this season. I don't know if we have good players or bad players? Good coaches or bad coaches? The only thing I know for sure is one of the following 3 people are going to be the reason the Steelers will be watching the playoffs from home.


    1. Big Ben - The turnover machine himself. Leads the league in INTs. This is bad on so many levels. He's got a great Oline, great weapons all around him, and he's got the OC he's always wanted. He doesn't get sacked like he used to. He's got the freedom to make plays and he's turned into a brilliant disaster.

    Take any other top QB in the league and put him in Pittsburgh and the QB is probably an all pro. Ben on the other hand makes mistakes that most rookies don't make. He makes them a lot. And leads the league in not being able to protect the ball. Odd are, this will cost us a playoff spot. In fact, it probably already has. He's dug us such a deep hole already this season.


    2. Mike Tomlin - 0 Challenges won in his last 10 Challenges. Take his red bean bag away from him. Seriously just hide it. Nothing good comes from him challenging a ruling on the field.

    But this is a bigger issue. It shows our coach cannot adapt. He cannot change. He is what he is. He's better than most give him credit for. But he's also much worse than most will admit. Odds are in the next 2 weeks, Tomlin will do something boneheaded that will cost us the playoffs. My gut says his gut will be wrong. That's a pretty safe bet.


    3. The Wizard of Boz - The Steelers should play the song, "If I only had a brain" every time he walks on the field. His head is so fudged up, we need to double reverse psychology him. His FG and XP misses are legendary. But when you layer them on top of Big Benterception and Mike "the Gut" Tomlin's bizarre premonitions, it's a confluence of disaster.

    We're mediocre enough that we can overcome a lot of mistakes. And I think we will to give fans false hope. Only to have that hope snatched away by another Wizard of Boz missed FG or 2, or a FG and XP. I'm pretty sure Boz can contribute to 2 losses. Ben and Mike might have a flash of brilliance that can shine for a game. Boz has nothing.


    What do you guys think? Who is most likely responsible for getting the Steelers players a longer vacation this offseason?

    Way to go Flippy. Real heartfelt scepticism by you never fails.

    That fake stuff we tried.....pretending? Doesn’t seem to do the trick.
    But when you REALLY THINK all is lost........they never fail us.

    Why do you think I made that bet last week. YOU had no hope we would win.

    And Flippy as you said, we “might” win a game or two but we cannot sustain it.
    Keep that mindset dude. Don’t be swayed by a good outing or two........they WILL disappoint you.

    The greater the hope......the more painful the fall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    I like being positive as much as the next guy and I was thankful to see the Steelers come out victorious against the Pats. However, the realist inside of me feels like this is a shallow victory that's collectively getting us too excited. It feels like the Pats might just be done. They lost that game more than we won it.

    I'm totally confused this season. I don't know if we have good players or bad players? Good coaches or bad coaches? The only thing I know for sure is one of the following 3 people are going to be the reason the Steelers will be watching the playoffs from home.


    1. Big Ben - The turnover machine himself. Leads the league in INTs. This is bad on so many levels. He's got a great Oline, great weapons all around him, and he's got the OC he's always wanted. He doesn't get sacked like he used to. He's got the freedom to make plays and he's turned into a brilliant disaster.

    Take any other top QB in the league and put him in Pittsburgh and the QB is probably an all pro. Ben on the other hand makes mistakes that most rookies don't make. He makes them a lot. And leads the league in not being able to protect the ball. Odd are, this will cost us a playoff spot. In fact, it probably already has. He's dug us such a deep hole already this season.


    2. Mike Tomlin - 0 Challenges won in his last 10 Challenges. Take his red bean bag away from him. Seriously just hide it. Nothing good comes from him challenging a ruling on the field.

    But this is a bigger issue. It shows our coach cannot adapt. He cannot change. He is what he is. He's better than most give him credit for. But he's also much worse than most will admit. Odds are in the next 2 weeks, Tomlin will do something boneheaded that will cost us the playoffs. My gut says his gut will be wrong. That's a pretty safe bet.


    3. The Wizard of Boz - The Steelers should play the song, "If I only had a brain" every time he walks on the field. His head is so fudged up, we need to double reverse psychology him. His FG and XP misses are legendary. But when you layer them on top of Big Benterception and Mike "the Gut" Tomlin's bizarre premonitions, it's a confluence of disaster.

    We're mediocre enough that we can overcome a lot of mistakes. And I think we will to give fans false hope. Only to have that hope snatched away by another Wizard of Boz missed FG or 2, or a FG and XP. I'm pretty sure Boz can contribute to 2 losses. Ben and Mike might have a flash of brilliance that can shine for a game. Boz has nothing.


    What do you guys think? Who is most likely responsible for getting the Steelers players a longer vacation this offseason?
    +2
    Totally agree, especially with #1. He could equalize and overcome many miscues such as the ones listed #2 and #3, by upping his play, but I will not hold my breath. As I have said before and as evident, this team will go as far as the defense will carry them! Enough said! And that is a shame considering we have more than enough offensive components where they really should be leading the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    2. Mike Tomlin - 0 Challenges won in his last 10 Challenges. Take his red bean bag away from him. Seriously just hide it. Nothing good comes from him challenging a ruling on the field.
    I honestly think he challenges when he's wishing we'd get a call - it's a call we NEED, not one that he had anyone review.
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