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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.wizard View Post
    Impossible to know, if we had run more and lost we would be hearing the "turtle ball" complaints, it all comes down to execution. It's overly simplistic to say pass more and lose run more and win.
    "Turtle" complaints were usually made in VICTORIES that stupid fans thought were too close.

    "We had a 17 point lead and only won by 7.....we could have lost", they'd whine; but we almost NEVER actually lost.

    Turtle is why Cowher and Tomlin had OUTSTANDING records with a 2 TD lead.

    What we see now is what happens when you call plays like a fan.
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 12-13-2018 at 05:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    The only INTs that I wish Ben would eliminate are the RZ interceptions. The others can be overcome during a game, but RZ INTs are killers, if he could be less of a gunslinger and more of a, "throw it away and live to fight another day" in the RZ, the Steelers can win any game.

    And leave it to Boswell to kick a FG?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    And leave it to Boswell to kick a FG?!?!
    Yes, the RZ being the 20 yard line or closer, Boswell, even in his current state will make a 37 yard FG or less the majority of the time. If you throw an INT in the RZ you can't score any points.


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    Jeremy Fowler
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    Asked about the Steelers' run-vs.-pass attack after the team rushed the ball 345 times last season, second-lowest behind Green Bay, team president Art Rooney II said he'd like to "see us be a little more balanced...Although truth of the matter is we were pretty successful passing, so it's hard to say it was a problem. But I do think being a little more balanced could be helpful."

    Plan A: Trade 1.20/3.66/5.141 & 2020 3rd to BUF for 1.9 (ILB Devin White)

    Plan B:
    1.20 TE T.J. Hockenson, Iowa 6-5 251
    2.52 WR Hakeem Butler, Iowa State 6-5 227
    3.66 OLB Chase Winovich, Michigan 6-3 256
    3.83 S Amani Hooker, Iowa 5-11 210
    4.122 ILB David Long Jr., West Virginia 5-11 227
    5.141 CB Isaiah Johnson, Houston 6-2 208
    6.175 ILB Bobby Okereke, Stanford 6-1 239
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    6.207 OG Hjalte Froholdt, Arkansas 6-5 306
    7.219 DE Armon Watts, Arkansas 6-5 300

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    Doesn’t sound like Ben is in the dog house to me. Not by that statement.
    From the 2010-2018 season, (8 years after Cowher's players & coaches had left) Mike Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games. And two of those wins were against back up Quarterbacks. Our history has been defined by what we do in the postseason; not the regular season.

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    but I thought Crash said if we only passed the ball more we would for sure win the Super Bowl?

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    Roethlisberger was tied with Luck for most INTs in the 1st half = 11.

    He was 17th in the NFL with 5 in the 2nd half.

    He was tied for 16th with 3 4th qtr INTs.

    He was tied for most RZ INTs (Keenum) with 4.

    He only had one INT inside opponents RZ.

    Formation with highest QB rating? 4 WR set...good for 8th in the NFL.

    Formation with lowest QB rating? 2 WR set (not even in the top 20 QBs)

    #1 in the NFL with more than half his yards in YAC.

    3rd in NFL with passes >25 yds (36) ... (Mahomes, Goff)

    18th in % completions inside RZ = 56.5% (best Brees 71%)

    7th in % completions inside opponent 10 = 61%

    What I see in all this?... Roethlisberger threw a lot of passes and was inconsistent inside of games and generally was mediocre in some key stats.
    Last edited by NorthCoast; 01-18-2019 at 10:13 PM.


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