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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    What if AB's money went to a defender like JJ Watt or Aaron Donald instead?
    That would be nice in theory, but in the real world, guys like this simply aren't available to sign on the open market.

    In order to obtain a top tier defensive playmaker like that this offseason, the Bears had to give Khalil Mack a 6 year, $141M contract with $60M guaranteed at signing and $90M in total guarantees IN ADDITION TO sending a couple of 1st round picks to Oakland.

    Contrast that to AB, who we obtained with a 6th round pick, and then even after he established himself as the best wideout in the game, we were able to extend him to a long term deal that had only $19M in guaranteed dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    That would be nice in theory, but in the real world, guys like this simply aren't available to sign on the open market.

    In order to obtain a top tier defensive playmaker like that this offseason, the Bears had to give Khalil Mack a 6 year, $141M contract with $60M guaranteed at signing and $90M in total guarantees IN ADDITION TO sending a couple of 1st round picks to Oakland.

    Contrast that to AB, who we obtained with a 6th round pick, and then even after he established himself as the best wideout in the game, we were able to extend him to a long term deal that had only $19M in guaranteed dollars.
    In the Khalil Mack trade, the Raiders did horribly...

    They gave up Mack AND A SECOND ROUND PICK...

    They shouldn’t have...
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+# up and wear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    That would be nice in theory, but in the real world, guys like this simply aren't available to sign on the open market.

    In order to obtain a top tier defensive playmaker like that this offseason, the Bears had to give Khalil Mack a 6 year, $141M contract with $60M guaranteed at signing and $90M in total guarantees IN ADDITION TO sending a couple of 1st round picks to Oakland.

    Contrast that to AB, who we obtained with a 6th round pick, and then even after he established himself as the best wideout in the game, we were able to extend him to a long term deal that had only $19M in guaranteed dollars.
    In 2017 when we extended Brown with his current contract, Jax signed Calais Campbell for $15m/yr. We could have landed another great 3-4DE for less than AB. What difference would that have made?

    For 1, we probably wouldn't have lost 2x to Jax last year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    In 2017 when we extended Brown with his current contract, Jax signed Calais Campbell for $15m/yr. We could have landed another great 3-4DE for less than AB. What difference would that have made?

    For 1, we probably wouldn't have lost 2x to Jax last year...
    When we extended Antonio Brown in February of 2017, we were coming off a full year suspension of Martavis Bryant in 2016.

    We did not have Juju or Washington yet.

    Besides AB, the other wideouts that we played with in 2016 were Markus Wheaton, Eli Rogers, Sammie Coates, Cobi Hamilton, and DeMarcus Ayers.

    Meanwhile, we already had Cameron Heyward and Stephon Tuitt on our roster at DE. Heyward is 3 years younger than Campbell. Tuitt is 7 years younger than Campbell.

    You really think a big money contract would have been better spent to obtain a 3rd starting 3-4 DE as opposed to a bona fide WR1 on a roster that did not have another reliable WR2 or WR3 on it???
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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    When we extended Antonio Brown in February of 2017, we were coming off a full year suspension of Martavis Bryant in 2016.

    We did not have Juju or Washington yet.

    Besides AB, the other wideouts that we played with in 2016 were Markus Wheaton, Eli Rogers, Sammie Coates, Cobi Hamilton, and DeMarcus Ayers.

    Meanwhile, we already had Cameron Heyward and Stephon Tuitt on our roster at DE. Heyward is 3 years younger than Campbell. Tuitt is 7 years younger than Campbell.

    You really think a big money contract would have been better spent to obtain a 3rd starting 3-4 DE as opposed to a bona fide WR1 on a roster that did not have another reliable WR2 or WR3 on it???
    Granted it might not seem that way at the time, but in retrospect, it would have made us better.

    AB didn't even help us make the AFCC game in 2017.

    Campbell helped his team get there and helped foil our season.

    I'd argue he's better than Heyward and Tuitt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    Will this be the season that Tomlin finally finishes below .500?

    If so, should he get the boot?
    While some on the board are saying their prayers every night that this will happen...it won't and he will be our great coach for at least several more years

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