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Thread: New defensive additions could equate to even less base defense for the Steelers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    It's not as simple as saying it was all Spence's fault. Go check out the game tape. It's amazing how many times Vince can't read the play, or doesn't know what to do, or is out of position. He looked every bit as much like the guy just signed off the couch, as Spence was.
    When we lost Shazier, we lost not only his dynamic physical skills, which could mask some of our defensive deficiiences in a manner similar to Polamalu once upon a time, but we also lost the player who was responsible for making sure everyone was lining up properly, communicating with the rest of the defense, etc. It seems that communication breakdowns and confusion on D contributed as much to our late season struggles on D as much as physical limitations did.

    In adding Bostic and Burnett, who both have been vocal team leaders who have worn the green dot on their helmet before, as well as adding Terrell Edmunds, who coaches have been touting as someone who can possess such abilities in time, the team is doing what it can to attempt to fix what ailed us late last season.

    You can also chalk up some of those struggles to players attempting to overextend themselves in a futile effort to "cover up" for missing Shazier as opposed to just focusing on doing their own job and trusting the guy next to you to do his job as well.
    Forced patriotism is an oxymoron.

    A government leader proclaiming that citizens have to stand proudly for the National Anthem or else they shouldn't be in the country sounds more like a mandated decree from a totalitarian dictator like Kim Jong Un rather than the leader of the Free World.

    Our ability to peacefully protest is a fundamental American right, and any attempt by our government to squash this freedom is what is truly dishonoring the liberty that our Star Spangled Banner symbolizes.

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    Undoubtedly, those points are correct.

    It's also true, I think, that the Steelers could stand to upgrade from Vince, especially if the aforementioned steps to remedy the loss of Shazier don't pan out.
    Last edited by Buzz; 05-17-2018 at 12:12 PM.

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    The problem with comparing VW's game pre and post Shazier is the drop off that occurred once Shazier was gone. It's not like he was playing next to a star player one game and then an average guy the next. He went from being a complimentary "glue" guy beside a freelancing dynamic star to being the guy who has to cover up for a player off his couch. Now we are left to wonder how he will play beside an average (maybe a bit above or below average) starting ILB.

    There is such a huge disparity in his play last year because there was such a huge gap between the players he was teamed with. This will definitely be one to watch, and maybe a key factor on how much this D can improve.

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    Wednesday, May 23, 2018 07:30 AM

    Defense exploring options

    Mike Prisuta

    Steelers.com

    The commencing of OTAs included the unveiling of a potential new approach to stopping the run.

    The Steelers have traditionally favored a four-man front in their sub-package defense in passing situations, with the outside linebackers lining up as defensive ends and defensive ends Heyward and Tuitt moving inside to defensive tackle positions.

    The 4-3 look in the base alignment Dupree detailed following OTA No. 1 is an apparent response to the run-defense issues the Steelers experienced after losing inside linebacker Ryan Shazier last December in Cincinnati.

    The nuance includes Dupree switching from the left side to the right more often than in previous seasons.

    “This is going to be my first year of rotating back and forth,” Dupree continued. “We know it’s going to be a run sometimes. And on short-yardage situations, on check-down plays, we’ll be able to rally around the ball real fast. We don’t usually try to do it in a lot of pass-rush situations. We just try to do it to be able to stop the run.

    “We gotta stop the run. We gotta start now, finding ways and just getting into the groove, how we’re going to do it in the season.”

    The Steelers allowed 164 rushing yards and an average of 4.7 yards per carry in their 45-42 playoff loss to Jacksonville last Jan. 14.

    “Just going off of last year, off our last game, we couldn’t stop the run as a defense,” safety Sean Davis said. “That threw the whole vibe of the game off.

    “We do a good job stopping the run, then we’ll have a better chance stopping everything else. But if you can’t stop the run, the offense, they have control of the game. That’s how we got beat, off our last game against Jacksonville.”

    Added inside linebacker Vince Williams: “We just couldn’t stop the run. They were able to generate enough run where they could trick us with the play-action (pass) because we didn’t know what was coming. It turned the game into a 50-50 game and they just executed.”

    The alterations on display at OTAs aren’t limited to the deployment of the front seven.

    Morgan Burnett’s arrival via free agency has changed the way the safeties are referenced.

    “(On Tuesday) we were ‘left’ and ‘right,’” said Davis, formerly the strong safety when Mike Mitchell played under a free safety designation. “(Burnett) can do both positions and so can I.”

    Williams perceived the secondary to be “like a whole new group back there, everybody has new numbers and everything.

    “I’m pretty sure they’re going to get it patched up,” he said. “I’m excited to see what they can do.”

    First, the run defense will be addressed.

    That would have been the case even had the Steelers stuffed the Jaguars’ running game in the playoffs.

    “It’s absolutely the annual starting point,” Williams said. “The staple of a great defense is stopping the run. Everything works inside out. You gotta focus on stoping the run from the middle to the outsides, then you focus on the pass from there.”

    The former won’t be accomplished merely with schematic tweaks.

    “We gotta play smarter,” Davis. “We can’t get out-physical-ed. We’re the Steelers defense. We gotta be able to stop the run.”

    https://www.steelers.com/news/defense-exploring-options
    Forced patriotism is an oxymoron.

    A government leader proclaiming that citizens have to stand proudly for the National Anthem or else they shouldn't be in the country sounds more like a mandated decree from a totalitarian dictator like Kim Jong Un rather than the leader of the Free World.

    Our ability to peacefully protest is a fundamental American right, and any attempt by our government to squash this freedom is what is truly dishonoring the liberty that our Star Spangled Banner symbolizes.

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    I like the urgency I sensed from that article. And I like when Davis said, " We can't get out-physical-ed" Because that's just what the Jags did to us. Man up!

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