ILB Vince Williams "upset" about team drafting Ryan Shazier

**Ghost** · 08-06-2014, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Eddie Spaghetti

i think moats may be more than that

i feel good about him, looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table

I agree with Eddie. Moats is a decent signing.

**Discipline of Steel** · 08-06-2014, 11:22 PM

The "Crazy Eyes" picture made me think less of him for some reason...

**Shawn** · 08-07-2014, 08:32 AM

Guys Vince Williams is too limited to play in todays NFL. The writer speaks of loyalty...come on. It's about winning. Williams wasn't good enough...if he was he would be starting. They are trying to put packages together that allows them to play against no huddle...guys who can cover and thump. Hence the reason Spence is the #2. Williams would have been a decent ILB a decade or two ago...now? He is a guy who can fill in...in a pinch.

**JUST-PLAIN-NASTY** · 08-07-2014, 09:59 AM

Williams will be a "role" player. He will make his living on ST, goaline, & short yardage. He can stick on a roster as a spot starter. He's the type of LB an OC attacks in his gameplan. There's no place to hide in football...No right field. Love the fire & passion though. He needs to work hard at his role & continue to get better at his position. He will be limited at LB....But there is room for a guy like that with the ILB depth chart in front of him.

**RuthlessBurgher** · 08-07-2014, 11:36 AM

If either of our do-it-all three-down ILB's Timmons or Shazier go down, there won't be just one guy replacing him. It will likely be Vince Williams getting the early down work, and Sean Spence on passing downs.

**steelsnis** · 08-07-2014, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher

If either of our do-it-all three-down ILB's Timmons or Shazier go down, there won't be just one guy replacing him. It will likely be Vince Williams getting the early down work, and Sean Spence on passing downs.

I think VW is the primary backup to Timmons at the Buck LB, while Spence is primary backup to Shazier at the Mack. For example, if Shazier can't go this wknd, I think Spence will start next to Timmons, rather than move Timmons back to the Mack and start VW at the Buck.

**K Train** · 08-07-2014, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by steelsnis

I think VW is the primary backup to Timmons at the Buck LB, while Spence is primary backup to Shazier at the Mack. For example, if Shazier can't go this wknd, I think Spence will start next to Timmons, rather than move Timmons back to the Mack and start VW at the Buck.

Hes got the right idea though, that might be how it is listed at the end of the day but if either starter went down I think those two would rotate situationally until one takes control of the job