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    What will be interesting is if things don't go immediately well for Manziel whether he would be too headstrong to take coaching advice to change his game if necessary...

    "Johnny Manziel is one of the top signal-callers in the 2014 NFL Draft class, but Manziel struggled during his time at Texas A&M when he had to face the LSU Tigers. Recently, LSU safety Craig Loston revealed the strategy that his team used when they faced off against Manziel and it could be a concern for NFL general managers.

    “Our plan was to try to keep him in the pocket, make him beat us from the pocket,” Loston said, via Yahoo! Sports. “We did a pretty good job of keeping him bottled up throughout the whole game… he caught us in a couple of errors, but I think our D-line did a great job of collapsing things around him and forcing him into some pressure throws.”

    This is obviously troubling because teams in the NFL will attempt to keep Manziel in the pocket as well, and their secondaries will be able to feast on the forced throws and mistakes that Manziel would get away with at the collegiate level.

    There is also the concern about Manziel’s size and playing style at the next level, because he won’t be able to take the hits that he took in college with NFL-sized defenders.

    Manziel will be one of the most controversial prospects over the next couple of months leading up to the draft, so it will be interesting to see how teams ultimately grade him, but we would still expect him to be a top ten pick despite any concerns that will surface."
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    "In two games vs. LSU, reigning Heisman Trophy winner completed 45 of 97 passes (46.4 percent) for 500 yards, one touchdown and five interceptions. In two losses to the Tigers by a combined score of 58-29, Johnny Football rushed the ball 29 times for 72 yards (2.5 yards per carry) and no touchdowns."

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    And what did he do the rest of his career including against Alabama? So, what we know is Manziel needs improvement in the area of being a pocket passer, that he struggles when a D keeps him from freelancing. All stuff everyone on the planet knew coming into the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    And what did he do the rest of his career including against Alabama? So, what we know is Manziel needs improvement in the area of being a pocket passer, that he struggles when a D keeps him from freelancing. All stuff everyone on the planet knew coming into the draft.
    Just a guess but I'm gonna say that every defense in the NFL right now is probably better than LSU's or Alabama's was. He's been hyped by the media as the next big thing and I'm just saying that he's human and he can be game planned for successfully by most NFL DC's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    And what did he do the rest of his career including against Alabama?
    I seem to recall that some kid named Tebow tore through the SEC and everyone else too.

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    He's too puffed up. I predict a big fail. Ryan Leaf 2.0
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    I think he has a very vick-like career. Not saying hes going to be the next guy to land 2 separate $100 million deals, but i imagine he will be inconsistent with flashes of brilliance

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    I think he has a very vick-like career. Not saying hes going to be the next guy to land 2 separate $100 million deals, but i imagine he will be inconsistent with flashes of brilliance
    That's a fair comparison although I was thinking more along the lines of Manziel becoming the next Kordell Stewart.

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    I seem to recall that some kid named Tebow tore through the SEC and everyone else too.
    And I can recall successful NFL QBs having games and D's they struggled against.

    That's why it's important to look at the tools. Tebow had the heart, he had the mobility, he had the confidence but he didn't have the physical tools to be great. Going into the draft few scouts liked his mechanics. Manziel is the anti-Tebow when it comes to humility but he has all those intangible tools to be great along with a gifted arm. He has good mechanics, makes all the throws, and is even better throwing on the run.

    Even on a horrible Browns O, you will see the flashes of Manziel that will let you know that you have something special in this kid. He does things I haven't seen anyone else do including Vick. His field vision is one of the best I have seen.

    I stick by my analysis that Manziel is the next great hated. He will be a thorn in the side of the Steelers for years to come. If they can surround him with some WR talent it could be a special football generation in Cleveland. And personally, I want that. I want that for Browns fans who I have come to respect. And I want it for Steeler fans because this team needs that rivalry...wants that rivalry.

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