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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    pitts defense averaged 5th, SD was 12th over that span............yup, thats the same
    And if you look at each QB's supporting cast on offense between 2006 and 2012, you'll notice that Philip Rivers has had nearly twice as many Pro Bowl selections around him (20) as Roethlisberger has (11).


    Philip Rivers

    2006: Antonio Gates, Nick Hardwick, Marcus McNeill, Lorenzo Neal, LaDainian Tomlinson
    2007: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates, Marcus McNeill, Lorenzo Neal, LaDainian Tomlinson
    2008: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates
    2009: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson
    2010: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates
    2011: Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Ryan Mathews
    2012: NONE
    2013: NONE


    Ben Roethlisberger

    2006: Alan Faneca, Willie Parker
    2007: Alan Faneca, Willie Parker
    2008: NONE
    2009: Heath Miller
    2010: Maurkice Pouncey
    2011: Maurkice Pouncey, Mike Wallace
    2012: Heath Miller, Maurkice Pouncey
    2013: Antonio Brown


    A great defense will certainly improve a QB's chances of winning games, but it does very little to help him appear individually competent. It's the rest of the offense that helps him perform well individually, and in this regard, the tables have turned: Philip Rivers has had much more help from the rest of his offense than Roethlisberger has ever had from his. Unlike Rivers and all the other top QBs of the last 10 years, most of Roethlisberger's help has never been on the field with him, and that does make a difference in terms of his individual performance.
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by DBR96A View Post
    And if you look at each QB's supporting cast on offense between 2006 and 2012, you'll notice that Philip Rivers has had nearly twice as many Pro Bowl selections around him (20) as Roethlisberger has (11).


    Philip Rivers

    2006: Antonio Gates, Nick Hardwick, Marcus McNeill, Lorenzo Neal, LaDainian Tomlinson
    2007: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates, Marcus McNeill, Lorenzo Neal, LaDainian Tomlinson
    2008: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates
    2009: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson
    2010: Kris Dielman, Antonio Gates
    2011: Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Ryan Mathews
    2012: NONE
    2013: NONE


    Ben Roethlisberger

    2006: Alan Faneca, Willie Parker
    2007: Alan Faneca, Willie Parker
    2008: NONE
    2009: Heath Miller
    2010: Maurkice Pouncey
    2011: Maurkice Pouncey, Mike Wallace
    2012: Heath Miller, Maurkice Pouncey
    2013: Antonio Brown


    A great defense will certainly improve a QB's chances of winning games, but it does very little to help him appear individually competent. It's the rest of the offense that helps him perform well individually, and in this regard, the tables have turned: Philip Rivers has had much more help from the rest of his offense than Roethlisberger has ever had from his. Unlike Rivers and all the other top QBs of the last 10 years, most of Roethlisberger's help has never been on the field with him, and that does make a difference in terms of his individual performance.
    Also, if you are one to use numbers as a comparison, you have to keep in mind that Rivers plays 8 games a year in sunny SoCal, while Ben plays in the wind, snow, and rain of Western PA.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    Also, if you are one to use numbers as a comparison, you have to keep in mind that Rivers plays 8 games a year in sunny SoCal, while Ben plays in the wind, snow, and rain of Western PA.
    Eh, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers play in bad weather conditions too. The quality of each QB's offensive weapons is the main factor here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Nobody said "the same"...
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