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    Even coaches, GM's and evaluators are wrong or no one would ever be fired.

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    Roethlisberger’s career regular-season winning percentage of .669 ranks third among active NFL quarterbacks with at least 50 starts. He also ranks third among active quarterbacks with 95 regular-season victories, trailing only Peyton Manning (167) and Tom Brady (147).

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    He spent most of his career with one of the top running backs of this generation, and the same at TE. He plays in an environment that is ideal for putting up big numbers, has had a strong D for most of his career, and has played in possibly the weakest division during the collective time of his career...that is what he has done in this league.

    sd defense nowhere near what ben has had
    heath has been here
    ben had good running game the same time tomlinson was there
    cleve = oak, balt = denver, cincy = kc.pretty similar divisions
    1) CB D Dennard
    2) OLB R Shazier
    3) DE J Ellis
    4) WR M Bryant
    5a) OG D Yankey
    5b) OLB J Tripp
    6a) RB D Archer
    6b) NT D McCullers
    7) WR J Janis

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    So, if the teams and divisions are so similar, the difference between two rings and zero rings has been Ben...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    So, if the teams and divisions are so similar, the difference between two rings and zero rings has been Ben...

    what part of pitts defense being so much better than SD didnt you understand?
    plus, how was ben's performance in his first superbowl?
    1) CB D Dennard
    2) OLB R Shazier
    3) DE J Ellis
    4) WR M Bryant
    5a) OG D Yankey
    5b) OLB J Tripp
    6a) RB D Archer
    6b) NT D McCullers
    7) WR J Janis

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    what part of pitts defense being so much better than SD didnt you understand?
    plus, how was ben's performance in his first superbowl?
    He played well enough in the playoffs that year to get us to the Super Bowl where his defense, running game, and a Randle El to Ward TD pass was enough to win it. Rivers has never played well enough to guide a team featuring LaDainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Shawne Merrimanm, Shaun Phillips, etc. to the Super Bowl in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    what part of pitts defense being so much better than SD didnt you understand?
    Well, this poster seems to think that SD had a strong defense for most of Rivers' career:

    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    ....has had a strong D for most of his career
    I agree with him...


    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    plus, how was ben's performance in his first superbowl?
    How was Rivers' performance in his first Super Bowl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    Well, this poster seems to think that SD had a strong defense for most of Rivers' career:



    I agree with him...




    How was Rivers' performance in his first Super Bowl?
    pitts defense averaged 5th, SD was 12th over that span............yup, thats the same
    1) CB D Dennard
    2) OLB R Shazier
    3) DE J Ellis
    4) WR M Bryant
    5a) OG D Yankey
    5b) OLB J Tripp
    6a) RB D Archer
    6b) NT D McCullers
    7) WR J Janis

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    pitts defense averaged 5th, SD was 12th over that span............yup, thats the same
    Nobody said "the same"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    cleve = oak, balt = denver, cincy = kc.pretty similar divisions
    Comparing divisions, let us count how many times the teams in the divisions have been good over the course of their careers. For the sake of argument I chose ten wins in order to call a team good.

    Since 2004, how many ten win seasons?

    AFC West:

    KC - 3, 66 wins
    Oak - 0, 49 wins
    Denver - 4, 93 wins
    SD - 4, 100 wins

    AFC North

    Browns - 1, 51 wins
    Bengals - 4, 82 wins
    Ravens - 5, 95 wins
    Steelers - 6, 105 wins

    So, Browns > Raiders, Bengals > Chiefs, Ravens > Broncos, Steelers > Chargers. It isn't always by much, but it is across the board.

    Anyone who has been following football the last ten years can tell you that the AFC West and NFC West were the two worst divisions in football for the majority of the time.

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