Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.
The difference is that during the "3 years" it took Seattle's defense the young players were playing and gaining experience "when the real bullets were flying." IMO that is a huge factor why they became so good. Same thing with San Francisco. They weren't dominant on Day 1 but they were on field.
That is where LeBeau fails IMO. He seems to be looking for the sure thing which is why we see our playing getting their significant reps or starting in the final year or two of their rookie contract. That make evaluation of whether to extend and keep much harder.
Hopefully, the excuses are over and the young guys are on the field. That is where they will get better not just as tackling dummies in practice.
"My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.
Not sure who has labeled Jones a "bust" but taking a "show me" attitude is I think acceptable as part of the discourse we have here. The core of the debate among Jones' fans and the more skeptical of us is simply wheteher last season he did enough "show me" or not.
I don't question Jones' determination and high motor on every play but I do question his strength, explosiveness and speed which, in my admitted uninformed expertise, are pretty essential to being an elite pass rusher in this league. And let's be honest, that is why he was drafted and essentially given the starting job last year. he wasn't draft to be a middle of road pass rusher so we shouldn't all of a sudden make that the mark he needs to achieve.
"My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"
I think the jury is out on Jones. Any talk beyond that is merely talk. The fact is none of us know. I have concerns but I am also optimistic in the sense that the Steelers are very good at grading out first round draft picks. Who was the last first round flop?
Trolls are people too.
Ziggy and Mendenhall certainly didn't work out here, but they did start here for a few years each, so they weren't exactly total flops.
We probably should have gotten more out of the Kendall Simmons pick, but injuries and illness did him in. When healthy, he was a solid enough starter.
Troy Edwards is remember as a bust, but he did have a solid rookie season, but then not much at all after that.
The last complete and total busts we drafted in the first were Jamain Stephens in 1996 and Huey Richardson in 1991.
Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.
Sounds like you want a workout warrior... not a football player.
Funny thing is... you were content with Timmons' 13 total tackles as a rookie. You clearly dislike the player, not the production. It doesn't get any more obvious.... except for your dislike towards Lebeau and your obsession with switching to a 4-3.
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