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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    I didn't say anything about rookies...

    I'm talking about finding vets and journeymen and throwing them in and getting great results.
    Which is what LeBeau has done as well...

    The Steelers have definitely built through the draft, but they have also signed free agents who were undervalued and flourished in LeBeau's system:

    Most notably James Farrior and Ryan Clark...

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    While we are talking about Seattle's defense, am I the only one who thinks Richard Sherman is overrated? I would much rather have a Joe Haden or Patrick Peterson, who seem to get much less attention because they play in Cleveland and Arizona. Of course, on the other hand, I would love me some Earl Thomas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    While we are talking about Seattle's defense, am I the only one who thinks Richard Sherman is overrated? I would much rather have a Joe Haden or Patrick Peterson, who seem to get much less attention because they play in Cleveland and Arizona. Of course, on the other hand, I would love me some Earl Thomas.
    no.. Sherman isn't overrated at all.

    Peterson does return punts though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    While we are talking about Seattle's defense, am I the only one who thinks Richard Sherman is overrated? I would much rather have a Joe Haden or Patrick Peterson, who seem to get much less attention because they play in Cleveland and Arizona. Of course, on the other hand, I would love me some Earl Thomas.
    I believe that he is overrated, mostly because he will tell you that he is the best CB in the league, and many believe what he says...but I don't think he is. I think that not enough weight is placed on what Patrick Peterson says, and it is something that I've been saying as well for years regarding Ike. A CB whose assignment is consistently the other team's #1 WR has a far more difficult job than a CB who plays a side. The assignments are night and day. If you are not strong enough to be considered for the #1 WR assignment, then you should not be in the conversation of best CB in the game.

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    I would like to see the officials actually call Seattle's DBs for every PI instead of just the first few before letting it go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    I would like to see the officials actually call Seattle's DBs for every PI instead of just the first few before letting it go...
    I would actually like to see us do the same thing as Seattle... they won't call it on every play so why not take a few chances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    While we are talking about Seattle's defense, am I the only one who thinks Richard Sherman is overrated? I would much rather have a Joe Haden or Patrick Peterson, who seem to get much less attention because they play in Cleveland and Arizona. Of course, on the other hand, I would love me some Earl Thomas.
    but does that make him overrated? Is he top 5? Is he one of the best in the league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    I would actually like to see us do the same thing as Seattle... they won't call it on every play so why not take a few chances?
    They'll call it on us every play...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher View Post
    While we are talking about Seattle's defense, am I the only one who thinks Richard Sherman is overrated? I would much rather have a Joe Haden or Patrick Peterson, who seem to get much less attention because they play in Cleveland and Arizona. Of course, on the other hand, I would love me some Earl Thomas.
    I would take him over any CB we have or have had in the past 15 years.
    1. Charles Harris-OLB, Missouri
    2. Rasul Douglas-CB, West Virginia
    3. Chris Godwin-WR, Penn State
    4. John Johnson-S, Boston College
    5. James Conner-RB, Pitt
    6. Nazair Jones-DT, North Carolina
    7. Garrett Sickels, DE/OLB, Penn State

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    Sherman mouth make people turn their heads, but the truth be is the best in the game hands down. And yes better than what e have had in the last 15.

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