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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    The Steelers need a true NT now more than ever. Shazier is not a Levon Kirkland, Earl Holmes or even Larry Foote type who will fight through the trash. They really need to keep him clean.



    How do you know Shazier can't fight through defenders ? Based on what...his size ? You do know that Larry Foote was 231Lbs right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruthteller View Post
    How do you know Shazier can't fight through defenders ? Based on what...his size ? You do know that Larry Foote was 231Lbs right ?
    Even Ray Lewis a first ballot HOFer could get blocked by guards and centers if they had a free run at him and he practically begged the front office to draft Hloti Ngata, I wonder why? Sure you have to be able to shed blockers, but if you're fast enough to diagnose the play and get to the point of attack before the blocker you're ahead of the game. Will it be difficult for a 237 pound LBer to shed a 310 pound guard? Yes I doubt very many LBers can shed 300 - 330 pound linemen.

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    1.15) Ryan Shazier - ILB/OLB
    2.46) Stephon Tuitt - DE
    3.97) Dri Archer - RB
    4.118 ) Martavis Bryant - WR
    5.157) Shaquille Richardson - CB
    6.173) Wesley Johnson - OT
    6.192) Jordan Zumwalt - ILB
    7.215) Daniel McCullers - DT
    7.230) Rob Blanchflower - TE

    "Before you can win a game, you have to not lose it." -- Chuck Noll

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    My choices if available would be among NIX, TUITT, Allan ROBINSON or Jordan MATTHEWS. What say you??

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    Why all this talk about Nix ??? I mean you all do realize we signed NT " Cam Thomas " from the Chargers this off season right ? 6ft, 4...335Lbs....PURE 3-4 NT, and has started all 16 games for San Diego the past 3 years. I think he will more then do for us then a Nix will.


    As for Tuitt...great Physical specimen for sure. But seed to underacieve at times at Notre Dame. Hageman is fine...but I doubt he falls to us. If we stay at 46, and if he is there, it might be Tuitt I have to say. But, it would not shock me at all if the Steelers selected one of these 3 WR's..Martavis Bryant-Cody Latimer, or Donte Moncrief at pick 46..

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    Do you guys see us trading back and still pick up either Nix, Tuitt, Hageman, and maybe one of the remaining top ranked Wrs?

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    2014 NFL Draft: Best remaining prospects after Round 1

    By Gil Brandt
    NFL Media senior analyst
    Published: May 9, 2014

    1. Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
    Hot 100 rank: 20
    Ealy (6-foot-4, 273 pounds) is a very athletic player with great quickness and a lot of upside. He came to Mizzou at 217 pounds; at his pro day he weighed 265. A two-year starter, Ealy had one good year, in 2013, which included a great game against Auburn: two forced fumbles and three tackles for loss. He ran the 40 in 4.69 seconds at his pro day.

    2. Marqise Lee, WR, USC
    Hot 100 rank: 22
    Lee (5-foot-11 3/4, 192 pounds) is an outstanding athlete who ran a hand-timed 4.44 40 at the combine and had a 38-inch vertical. He also ran a sub-7.00 three-cone drill at his pro day. He isn't the most advanced route runner. A knee injury and inconsistent QB play held him back last season, but he finished with a big game in the Vegas Bowl. In three seasons at USC he had 248 catches and 29 touchdowns.

    3. Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
    Hot 100 rank: 24
    Measured 6-foot-7 and 321 pounds at his pro day, and ran 5.42 and 5.53 seconds in the 40. Some issues remain concerning Kouandjio's knee, but Dr. James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, tried to alleviate them with a letter he sent to all 32 teams, explaining how many years he expected the tackle to be able to play. Kouandjio needs work on his pass protection vs. speed rushers, but is still a good player. If you have any doubt, put on the LSU tape from last year; he was dominating. He had 25 lifts at his pro day but was only credited with 21 because he didn't "lock out" on four attempts. I could see him going as high as 20th overall in the draft. Could be a perfect pick for a team like the Seahawks at the back end of the first round.

    4. Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
    Hot 100 rank: 26
    Carr (6-foot-2 3/8, 214 pounds) is the type of player a team might trade up to get if he drops to the bottom of Round 1. He has a very strong arm, which is a plus if you play outdoors in cold-weather cities late in the year. In the past two years he had 87 touchdown passes and 15 interceptions, with a 67 percent completion rate. He ran the 40 in 4.65 seconds at the combine and had a very good pro day in March.

    5. Xavier Su'a-Filo, OL, UCLA
    Hot 100 rank: 27
    Su'a-Filo (6-foot-4 1/8, 307 pounds) played some left tackle in 2013, but his best NFL position will be guard. He did not play football in 2010-11 because he was serving on a Mormon mission, but he started all 14 games as a true freshman. He ran the 40 in 4.90 seconds (hand-held) and had 25 strength lifts at the combine.

    6. Stephon Tuitt, DT, Notre Dame
    Hot 100 rank: 28
    Tuitt (6-foot-5 1/2, 304 pounds) could be a real steal in the draft. He wasn't as good in 2013 as he was in 2012, but he plays the run well, is athletic and can play end in a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. He has 34 3/4-inch arms and had 31 reps in the bench press at the combine.

    7. Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
    Hot 100 rank: 29
    Hageman (6-foot-5 7/8, 310 pounds) has size, power and explosion but lacks consistency, otherwise he would be ranked higher. He might be too tall to play defensive tackle in the NFL but is good enough to convert to end. At the combine, he ran the 40 in a hand-timed 4.97 seconds. He has 34 1/4-inch arms and posted 32 reps in the bench press.

    8. Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
    Hot 100 rank: 30
    There are some questions about Moses' work habits and toughness, but he has outstanding size for the position (6-foot-6, 314 pounds) and very long arms (35 3/8 inches). He played right tackle before moving to the left side in 2013.

    9. Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
    Hot 100 rank: 31
    A three-year player, Jernigan (6-foot-1 5/8, 299 pounds) played as a true freshman in 2011 and started two games in 2012. His quickness allows him to be a very disruptive player, although he is better vs. the run. His hand-held 40 times at the combine were 4.93 and 5.09 seconds.

    10. Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame
    Hot 100 rank: 33
    Nix (6-foot-2 3/8, 331 pounds) missed much of last season with a torn meniscus and finished with only 27 tackles; he had 50 in 2012. He looks the part of a defensive tackle, with good size, quickness and lateral movement. He ran the 40 in a hand-timed 5.35 seconds at the combine and had 24 bench-press reps at his pro day.

    11. Joel Bitonio, OT, Nevada
    Hot 100 rank: 35
    Bitonio (6-foot-4 1/2, 302 pounds) ran a hand-timed 4.91-second 40 at the combine. He's a good athlete who played tackle at Nevada, but he might be better at guard. He needs to get stronger, and if he does I think he'll play a long time in the NFL.

    12. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
    Hot 100 rank: 36
    Garoppolo (6-foot-2 1/4, 226 pounds) had 53 touchdown passes in 2013. He has good arm strength to go with good accuracy and vision. He's also a very hard worker who is tough -- he played linebacker in high school.

    13. Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State
    Hot 100 rank: 37
    Lawrence (6-foot-2 3/4, 250 pounds) was previously unranked because I wanted to check on his off-field problems. He was redshirted as a junior college player in 2010, although the reasons are unclear, and he was twice suspended while at Boise State. His coaches say he has no major problems. Lawrence is a very athletic player with long arms and big hands, and he totaled 20 sacks from 2012-13.

    14. Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh
    Hot 100 rank: 42
    Savage (6-foot-3 7/8, 228 pounds) is a good leader and throws a lot like Troy Aikman. He has a very strong arm and will put it where the receiver can catch it. If he had played four years at one school, he might have been projected to go in the top half of the first round.

    15. Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt
    Hot 100 rank: 43
    Matthews (6-foot-3 1/8, 212 pounds) had 206 receptions for 2,800 yards over the past two years. He has great ball skills and should catch a lot of passes to move the chains, and no one will outwork him. He ran the 40 in a hand-held time of 4.40 seconds at the combine.

    16. Ego Ferguson, DT, LSU
    Hot 100 rank: 45
    Ferguson (6-foot-2 7/8, 302 pounds) most likely would have been a first-round pick if he had stayed in school for his final year. He's a very athletic lineman who is strong at the point of attack. He'll be a starter in his second year and play in the NFL for a long time.

    17. Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
    Hot 100 rank: 46
    Seferian-Jenkins (6-foot-5 1/2, 262 pounds) is still recovering from a foot injury and did not run or jump for teams in the pre-draft process. The Huskies ran more in 2013, which contributed to him catching only 36 passes for eight touchdowns. He can and will block. He served a one-week suspension last season after a DUI arrest in the spring.

    18. Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU
    Hot 100 rank: 47
    Hill (6-0 5/8, 233 pounds) is a big back with speed, quickness and power. He worked out very well at his pro day, looking good catching the ball and running the 40-yard dash in a hand-timed 4.53 seconds. He's had some off-the-field troubles, but his coaches say he's a good young man.

    19. Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State
    Hot 100 rank: 48
    Hyde (5-foot-11 7/8, 230 pounds) ran for 1,521 yards and 15 touchdowns last season, averaging 7.3 yards per carry. He's a power runner who has the quickness needed to be successful in the NFL. He ran the 40 in a hand-timed 4.62 seconds at the combine and had 19 bench-press reps.

    20. Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
    Hot 100 rank: 49
    Fleming (6-foot-4 7/8, 323 pounds) is a right tackle and a very good run blocker. He left school one year early, but started for three years. I think he will play this position for a lot of years. He needs to improve as a pass blocker, and I believe he will.

    21. Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana
    Hot 100 rank: 50
    Latimer (6-foot-2 5/8, 215 pounds) is a big receiver with outstanding hands, along with 4.44 speed and a 39-inch vertical. A three-year player, he'll need time, but this is a player who can be very good.

    22. Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
    Hot 100 rank: 51
    Robinson (6-foot-2 5/8, 207 pounds) played as a true freshman and totaled 174 catches the past two years. He's a great leaper, a skill he showed off when he made a big catch late in the fourth quarter against Michigan last season. He improved on his combine 40 at his pro day, running a 4.49.

    23. Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington
    Hot 100 rank: 52
    Sankey (5-foot-9 1/2, 209 pounds) has good quickness and running skills and will work hard on every play. He ranked No. 1 in the nation last year at breaking tackles. He has good hands and can be an every-down back. At the combine, he posted a hand-timed 4.45-second 40 and 41 1/2-inch vertical.

    24. Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
    Hot 100 rank: 53
    Amaro (6-foot-5 3/8, 265 pounds) will be a tough matchup in the NFL. He caught 106 passes and seven touchdowns last year. He wasn't asked to block a lot at Tech and will need work in that area. At the combine, he ran a hand-timed 4.63 seconds in the 40, but his stock dropped a bit after he interviewed poorly. He also has had some off-field problems in the past.

    25. AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama
    Hot 100 rank: 54
    McCarron (6-foot-3 1/4, 220 pounds) led Alabama to two national championships and completed 67 percent of his passes over two years (2012-13) with 58 TDs and 10 interceptions. He's a very smart player with slightly above-average arm strength and ran a hand-timed 4.91-second 40.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...-after-round-1

  7. #27
    Louis Nix is nothing...NOTHING close to Casey Hampton. Casey was a two-time All American 1st team. His speed and quickness and strength were way ahead of " Fat Boy " Nix. Hell, Cam Thomas is better then Nix right now. So why draft him ?

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    Put me down for Stephon Tuitt. NO CB or WR at #46. If the DL were gone I would keep trading back until I couldn't trade back no more. Take Bryant.



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    Quote Originally Posted by thetruthteller View Post
    How do you know Shazier can't fight through defenders ? Based on what...his size ? You do know that Larry Foote was 231Lbs right ?
    TO go along with this Farrior played at 218 his last few years here.
    LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
    Here We Go Steelers!


    Draft 2.0

    1. Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
    2. Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
    3. Kareem Martin, DE, UNC
    4. Donte Moncrief, WR, Mississippi
    5a. Shaquille Richardson, CB, Arizona
    5b. Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
    6a. Kevin Pierre-Louis, OLB, Boston College
    6b. Glen Stanley, OLB, Albany St
    7. Beau Allen, NT, Wisconsin

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    You know, the Steelers were out in force at Florida State's Pro Day....Timmy Jernigan?
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