Originally Posted by Iron City Inc.
No way for a 5th. Would have to be for their 4th rounder at (119) and their 7th rounder at (231)...otherwise...No deal! It's called Supply and demand Baby. Not that it matters cause no way Donald falls to 15. I doubt he gets by either Buffalo, and Tennessee.
When you line up at the 5 tech DE, you are lined up over an OT...ideally, you want your 5 tech to have some length...
Cam Heyward: 6' 5"
Aaron Smith: 6' 5"
Brett Keisel: 6' 5"
That length helps keep that OT off of you and the height allows you to see over the other offensive linemen into the backfield...
Ziggy was a hard worker and the Steelers thought they could take that work ethic and help him succeed...the success was limited...
This is pure conjecture which is not going to happen (because he's sure to be gone before we pick anyway), but since Donald does not fit in a 3-4 NT or a 3-4 DE, I think his best position in our base defense would be as a latter-day version of big ol' Levon Kirkland in the middle as the thumper ILB next to Timmons (Kirk was listed at 6'1" 275, Donald at 6'1" 285) and then have him put his hand on the ground to rush the passer from a DL spot in the nickel and dime packages.
Compare Donald's combine performance to that of Chris Borland, an ILB who should come off the board on day two. In spite of an almost 40 lbs. difference in weight, Donald had a better 40 time than Borland (4.68 vs. 4.83), better bench (35 vs. 27), better vertical jump (32 vs. 31), better broad jump (116 vs. 114), and better 3 cone (7.11 vs. 7.18). Very few big men are athletic to do the things that Kirkland did once upon a time, but I think Donald is one of those types of guys that are an exception.
1. CB Sidney Jones, Washington 6'0" 181
2. FS Budda Baker, Washington 5'10" 192
3. OLB Tyus Bowser, Houston 6'2" 244
4. ILB Connor Harris, Lindenwood 5'11 241
5. RB James Conner, Pittsburgh 6'2" 240
5c. TE Jeremy Sprinkle, Arkansas 6'5" 256
6. QB Chad Kelly, Mississippi 6'2" 224
7. WR Demore'ea Stringfellow, Mississippi 6'2" 212
7c. DE Collin Bevins, Northwest Missouri State 6'5" 286
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Originally Posted by Slapstick
I understand what you are saying sir. But it is not unheard of that alot of 3-4 defenses have short DE's. I mean the Ravens drafted Williams last year, and he is starting at DE for them. And he is SHORTER then Donald is. And the Chargers a few years back in round 1 drafted Corey Liuget, and he was just over 6ft, 1, 295..and he has been their starting DE in the 3-4 defense. And neither of those two players have anywhere near the strength or speed that Donald has.
You described it perfectly. Donald is not a template player but a talent that could be used in a number of different ways.
Originally Posted by RuthlessBurgher
- Charles Harris-OLB, Missouri
- Rasul Douglas-CB, West Virginia
- Chris Godwin-WR, Penn State
- John Johnson-S, Boston College
- James Conner-RB, Pitt
- Nazair Jones-DT, North Carolina
- Garrett Sickels, DE/OLB, Penn State
Originally Posted by Oviedo
if donald is the pick. thats what i would fear
ziggy hood 'learning the system' all over again
who's the last 6'0 285 DE to play for us in this 3-4 system?
Originally Posted by thetruthteller
and i believe ziggy's arm length to be a problem as well. because he was shorter (and with shorter arms)
Originally Posted by Slapstick
OTs were better able to get their hands on him
again, a big reason why we look for those 6'4 -6'5 guys for that position
Originally Posted by NJ-STEELER
Lucky Donald is 6ft 1 without shoes, and 6ft, 2 in them huh ?
who's the last 6'1 / 6'2 285 LB DE to play in this system?