I am starting to worry about our scheme, being the problem. In order for you to get pressure on the QB in DL's 3-4 system, it requires your OLBs to beat OTs. Is that realistic? How difficult is it to find 3-4 OLBs who can consistently beat OTs one on one? It seems rather difficult. We had that working with Woodley and Harrison in their prime, but I find it increasingly difficult to find guys who can pull that off. You mentioned the Giants as a team who beat the undefeated Pats by applying pressure. They did that with a superior 4-3 DL. I think a quality DL in a 4-3 is more likely to offer a sustained rush than are OLBs in a 3-4. It seems more attainable to me.
Originally Posted by Shawn
Edit: I am not saying I am giving up on J. Jones just yet, but here we used a mid-level first rounder on a 3-4 OLB and he got all of one sack. Just saying, I don't know if a 3-4 is a viable way to consistently reach the QB any more.
Last edited by sick beats; 04-29-2014 at 07:59 PM.
I actually agree with you. The benefit of the 3-4 is the ability to disguise blitzing schemes...but it's weakness is that you have at best a 250 bound LB trying to best a 300+ pound tackle. While you can get serious pressure at times, you have to usually use 6 guys to get it done...unless you have a Harrison...or a Woodley in his prime. Maybe we have that in Worilds...maybe not. But, don't see JJ ever becoming that power infiltrator in this scheme...but who knows with a serious off season weight program. Therefore a 4-3 has 4 big guys, more bulk along that line...big quick guys like Heyward. Are they easier to find? Maybe. But, the Giants succeeded where others failed because they got pressure with 4 and not 6. Guys like Manning will eat up a 6 man blitz all day.
Most of the great Ds in modern history do it with a DL that gets pressure from the front 4. The best Bears, Eagles and Ravens D all did it with just sending the front 4. The SB Giants as well. I think Seattle got pressure with just the DL as well.
Originally Posted by Shawn
1)-Kyle Fuller-CB-Va Tech- Best corner in this draft
2)-Chris Borland-ILB-Wisconsin-plug him inside for the next 10 years and forget it
3)-Jarred Abrederris-WR-Wisconsin-Hines Ward part deux
4)-Daniel McCullers-DT-Tennesee-poor mans Hampton
5a)-Brent Urban-DE-Virginia-Raw player much in the mold of a young Kiesel
5b)-Brandon Thomas-OL-Clemson-second round value
6a)-Aaron Colvin-CB-Oklahoma-second round value
6b)-Prince Shembo-OLB-Notre Dame- special teamer and depth
7)-Colt Lyerla-TE-Oregon-1 year ago I started a thread saying he should be our 1st round pick
Last edited by steelerkeylargo; 04-30-2014 at 12:05 AM.
This is one of the best mocks I have seen. I like most the picks...with the exception of knowing little about Urban, Thomas and Colvin. I agree about Lyerla...best TE in this draft hands down...compares to Gronk in both good and bad ways. Borland is a lunch pail Big Ten guy, love Abberderis (but would prefer Jarvis Landry), I've warmed on McCullers...and Shembo is a solid pick that late.
Originally Posted by steelerkeylargo
This would be solid from a talent standpoint. Just would hate to use another first on an OLB.
Originally Posted by Eddie Spaghetti
EJ Gaines held Mike Evans to 4 catches for only 8 yards in their head to head matchup...
Originally Posted by sick beats
Bingo, I think Gaines is a 4th round gem if he goes where CBS says he goes.
Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel
1. Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
2. Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
I haven't looked into deeper rounds enough yet, but I definitely want those two.
Other guys I am a little bit familiar with and would take in the third if available (especially if the top two weren't selected):
Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
Terrence Brooks, S, Florida State
Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU