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    Steelers stuck on best available vs. position of need

    Steelers stuck on best available vs. position of need

    By Neal Coolong on Apr 20 2014



    The position they need the most in the immediate future, cornerback, may not have a prospect available at 15 who's worth the pick. But none of the top five are likely to be available at 46.

    The Steelers are, at least from most draft analysts' point of view, stuck in the classic "best player available vs. position of need" argument when it comes to the 2014 NFL Draft.

    Cornerback and defensive line are the two biggest positions of need for future depth. It's hard to accept an argument to the contrary. They only have one starting cornerback (William Gay) currently signed for 2015, and none signed for 2016. While it's reasonable to expect Cortez Allen to sign an extension sometime between now and the start of the league year in 2015, this is a league that requires three starting-level cornerbacks - two on the outside and one in the slot in some variation of a nickel package.

    The defensive line has Cameron Heyward, who will likely have his team option activated by May 3, and is also a candidate for an extension after that. They signed Cam Thomas, a career nose tackle, to a two-year deal and it was said he'll play defensive end. His $2 million cap hit in 2015 suggests he's on a Prove It deal with the Steelers for 2014. The undrafted Brian Arnfelt and the injured Nick Williams are all that sits behind them, unless you include Brett Keisel, who's not even on the roster at the moment.

    The kicker here is it's unlikely a defensive lineman worth the 15th pick will be available when the Steelers go on the clock, and while there are five good first-round level cornerbacks in this draft, and it's likely at least four of them will be around when the Steelers are picking, the argument can be made none of them are good enough to justify the 15th pick.

    That generates two conclusions. In order for the Steelers to set up a value-based pick (i.e. BPA) in the second round, they may have to go the Position of Need route in the first round. Or, the Steelers do what they never do, take a risky prospect in the first round.

    However the quintuplet of corners - Justin Gilbert, Darqueze Dennard, Kyle Fuller, Justin Verrett and Bradley Roby - are sliced up and broken down, it's reasonable to argue they have a combination of skills that would lead to their selection in the first round. Circumstance might push them to the second round, but it's a solid bet all of them are gone in the first 45 picks.

    The Steelers may just have to say if they want one of them, they have to take them at 15.

    The possibility of a coveted quarterback being on the board at 15 is getting stronger, based on several reports, and that may lead to a trade market surfacing by the time the Steelers are selecting, but the Steelers are selecting in the middle of the first round, making it very difficult for a team to trade back into the first, and there really isn't much of a need for a quarterback among the teams drafting behind them (there would have to be two teams in that market, one wanting to get ahead of the other to get the quarterback they both allegedly want). Depending on what Cleveland does with the fourth pick, they could either be the most likely to take a passer, or the least. It's possible Cincinnati and Kansas City could make that argument, but both of them draft ahead of Cleveland already (the Chiefs at 23, and the Bengals at 24).

    All of that leads to simple logic. If the Steelers want a first-round cornerback, they'll have to take one at 15.

    Gilbert's insane level of athleticism makes him an appealing option; he's also the least likely to be available at 15. Dennard is a decent enough cornerback, but without the high-end speed coveted in the position, it's understandable why a team wouldn't want to use a pick in the teens on him. Fuller has better athleticism than Dennard, and maybe is a shade below him in terms of tackling, but is a very good all-around cornerback.

    Roby put some bad tape on display in 2013, but was considered the top corner in the class before last season. Verrett could be the best cover corner in the draft, but at 5-foot-9, lacks the height normally associated with a top 15 cornerback.

    Four of the five have visited with the Steelers, Fuller being the exception, along with several others.

    The Steelers can get a good cornerback at 15, even if he's not worth the 15th pick. Without much of a trade market to move down, it seems likely they'll have to decide whether any of the players at their biggest position of need will be worth it, or risk making their top cornerback acquisition in this draft a player who ranks sixth, or worse, at the position.

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    Dennard dennard dennard
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    If Gilbert is there you still take Dennard.
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    If Gilbert is there you take him.

    If Dennard is still there and Gilbert is gone, try to trade back. If no trades become available, then you take Dennard/Fuller.

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    Likely the BPA will be Mosley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    Likely the BPA will be Mosley.

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    Nice clip there hawaiian. I know the Steelers really need a WR and DB and by going ILB in the first puts a kink in those plans a bit. But, Mosley has all the tools...I mean he is a complete ILB. He does it all and is solid in pass coverage as well. The more I think about it, the more I believe it could be Mosley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8467thekraken View Post
    If Gilbert is there you take him.

    If Dennard is still there and Gilbert is gone, try to trade back. If no trades become available, then you take Dennard/Fuller.
    I remain that Gilbert is a better football player than Dennard...

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    I really like Mosely, he's been on my sig mock since January. But just about every mock I see has the ravens taking one of the WRs in the first round. I know its a mock but if they indeed take a WR, we will definitely need some firepower at CB very early in the draft. We would have to face T. Smith, Jones, and 1st rounder. And if Clev. takes Watkins to pair with Gordon, does that affect the Steelers decision?
    1. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
    2. Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt
    3. (comp) Philip Gaines CB Rice
    4. Arthur Lynch TE Georgia
    5. Ross Cockrell CB Duke
    5. (comp) Derrick Hopkins DT Virginia Tech
    6. Josh Mauro DE Stanford
    6. (comp) Shaquil Barrett OLB Colorado State
    7. Quincy Enunwa WR Nebraska

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    This article ignores a lot of the Steelers other needs, namely, WR. They have credible bodies at the position, but no long term plan as the #2 WR, unless you are counting on Wheaton. I think WR should be in the mix as a position of need, as should ILB. OLB also becomes a need position if Worilds is not extended.

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