They say it takes 5 years before you can evaluate a draft.

**SteelerOfDeVille** · 03-14-2014, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by sick beats

Being undrafted, Foster can't be included in the 2009 draft class discussion. I was specifically posting on the 2009 draft class, and how crappy it was.

Funny... Donnie Shell is included in the '74 class.

**sick beats** · 03-15-2014, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille

Funny... Donnie Shell is included in the '74 class.

Says who? I don't see him listed any where for the 1974 Steelers' draft.

[url]http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/draft/1974[/url]

**Slapstick** · 03-15-2014, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by sick beats

Says who? I don't see him listed any where for the 1974 Steelers' draft.

[URL]http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/draft/1974[/URL]

Depends upon who you ask:

[url]http://www.listology.com/podizz/list/top-11-team-draft-classes-nfl-history[/url]

74 Steelers- Lynn Swann, Jack Lambert, Johnny Stallworth, Mike Webster, Donnie Shell

**sick beats** · 03-15-2014, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Slapstick

Depends upon who you ask:

[url]http://www.listology.com/podizz/list/top-11-team-draft-classes-nfl-history[/url]

So, this random website listed Shell erroneously. They are wrong. He wasn't in the draft class. He wasn't drafted, hence can not me factually listed in the draft class. He was signed as a free agent. Not drafted. They can also tell us that water is made of fairy tears but it doesn't make it true.

**SteelerOfDeVille** · 03-15-2014, 02:36 PM

Often, when they talk about the greatest class of all-time, he IS included. NFL Network included him. Just sayin

**NorthCoast** · 03-16-2014, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ghost

If you combine '08 with '09 you have consecutive years with less than stellar drafts. '08 was horrendous - Mendenhall (at least got some productive seasons out of him), Sweed (total bust), Davis (huge reach and a total bust), Hills (never developed and spent most of his time inactive), Dixon (inconsistent at best), Humpal (injured but was ST only even if healthy) and then Mundy (solid late choice who's developed). This '08 draft was a killer.

I agree.

But it wasn't just the Steelers missing in '08. Check out the rest of the league's picks, a lot of them faired about as well. Tells me it was just a poor talent year. Unlike this year's draft which is reported to be deepest in 30 yrs. If the Steelers miss this year, then we have very good cause to be concerned that something needs to be done in the org.

**birtikidis** · 03-16-2014, 01:39 PM

Shell would be added in the 74 draft because he was a draft eligible rookie. Free Agents are still considered draft eligible and fall in the draft class that they were originally signed in.

**Slapstick** · 03-16-2014, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by sick beats

So, this random website listed Shell erroneously. They are wrong. He wasn't in the draft class. He wasn't drafted, hence can not me factually listed in the draft class. He was signed as a free agent. Not drafted. They can also tell us that water is made of fairy tears but it doesn't make it true.

The website you listed is "footballdb"...I don't know Patrick Gilligan...why is he any more credible than any other random website?

**Slapstick** · 03-16-2014, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by SteelerOfDeVille

Often, when they talk about the greatest class of all-time, he IS included. NFL Network included him. Just sayin

So, we should just trust some random football TV network? Did they happen to mention fairy tears?

**sick beats** · 03-16-2014, 06:03 PM

The correct way to list it, would be that 1974 draft was one of the best ever, PLUS they added Shell as a undrafted rookie free agent. I don't really care.