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    Draft: Overrated, Dark Horse, Underrated, Fallers

    Overrated: Taylor Lewan is hands down the most overrated person in this draft. I suspect he will be nothing more than an average RT. He doesn't have the skills to warrant a first round pick. He is a 4th rounder at best.

    Dark Horse: Colt Lyerla, IMO he is the second most athletic TE in this draft after Ebron. He went to rehab, is saying all the right things. If you haven't seen him play check out his youtube video...the guy is a beast. I know some will argue he isn't a "dark horse" but when a guy could be had in the 5th round or later who is as good as Lyerla...I think that qualifies. My guess? The Pats will take a chance on him. I know that is a bold prediction because they might still be raw from Hernandez...but they are in dire need of an athletic TE and I think they pull the trigger and take a chance.

    Underrated: This is an easy one for me Caruan Reid-DE out of Princeton. He is projected for the 4th round. IMO, this guy is NFL ready without any real deficiencies in his game. He is a mid/high second round talent, and only that because of the teams Princeton plays. The dude is the real deal.

    Fallers: I believe Anthony Barr will fall to the Steelers at 15. He is the guy I believe could throw a monkey wrench into draft boards and make it really tempting to grab an OLB in the first. Now, some will say I'm crazy especially with Worilds being transitioned, and Woodley eating up literally and figuratively a large contract. But, I'm not sold on Worilds...not sure the Steelers are either...and Woodley can't stay healthy. Barr is a reasonable possibility...and he fits that typical Tomlin OLB.

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    I would guess the Steelers have caused some teams to rethink their draft strategy by transitioning Worilds. They may grab an OLB early, or they may feel comfortable with a mid-rd pick to groom as Worild's replacement.

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    Overrated- "Ha Ha" Dix-Total product of the system. The overall team scheme has inflated his value.

    Dark Horse-Pierre Desir-Kid has all the tools and size. NFL coaching will put him over the top.

    Underrated-Kyle Fuller-Injuries will likely keep him out of the first round but he may be the most complete CB in draft

    Fallers-Cyrus Kuondjio-He was exposed in the Sugar Bowl and his medical will likely knock him out of the first round.
    2015 Draft

    1) P.J. Williams-CB-Florida St.
    2) Jordan Phillips-DT-Oklahoma
    3) Geneo Grissom-OLB-Oklahoma
    4) Clint Trickett-QB-WVU
    5) Jonathan Mincy-CB-Auburn
    6) Justin Coleman-CB-Tenn
    7) Spencer Roth-P-Baylor













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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerkeylargo View Post
    Dark Horse-Pierre Desir-Kid has all the tools and size. NFL coaching will put him over the top.
    any chance of Desir lasting until our 3rd round comp pick or would we have to draft him with our 2nd round pick to have any chance at him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    any chance of Desir lasting until our 3rd round comp pick or would we have to draft him with our 2nd round pick to have any chance at him?
    ZERO.....top 10 in the 3rd
    2015 Draft

    1) P.J. Williams-CB-Florida St.
    2) Jordan Phillips-DT-Oklahoma
    3) Geneo Grissom-OLB-Oklahoma
    4) Clint Trickett-QB-WVU
    5) Jonathan Mincy-CB-Auburn
    6) Justin Coleman-CB-Tenn
    7) Spencer Roth-P-Baylor













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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerkeylargo View Post
    ZERO.....top 10 in the 3rd
    thanks, I would love to include Desir in my mock but don't want to select him at 2(46).

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerkeylargo View Post
    ZERO.....top 10 in the 3rd
    SKL--like you mock but don't know much about Christian Jones or Xavier Grimble? Also, Matthews seems like he is moving up, do you think he lasts to our #2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    SKL--like you mock but don't know much about Christian Jones or Xavier Grimble? Also, Matthews seems like he is moving up, do you think he lasts to our #2?
    Jones is a tackling machine, a coaches player. Grimble is a sleeper talent. Wasn't utilized properly at USC. As far as Mathews. The thing is you have to start plugging names into the rounds. If you listen to all the "experts" and count all the guys they are giving first round tags you would have 50 guys going in 32 slots. I could see a team like STL or JAX taking him at the top of the 2nd if they bypass Watkins and Evans in the first.
    2015 Draft

    1) P.J. Williams-CB-Florida St.
    2) Jordan Phillips-DT-Oklahoma
    3) Geneo Grissom-OLB-Oklahoma
    4) Clint Trickett-QB-WVU
    5) Jonathan Mincy-CB-Auburn
    6) Justin Coleman-CB-Tenn
    7) Spencer Roth-P-Baylor













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    [QUOTE=Shawn;594786]Overrated: Taylor Lewan is hands down the most overrated person in this draft. I suspect he will be nothing more than an average RT. He doesn't have the skills to warrant a first round pick. He is a 4th rounder at best.

    Watched the tape of this tackle at the combine a few times and was impressed. How could you not be. He lit it up.
    Took a look at the Michigan / ND game. Tape showed Lewan about half the time matched up with Tuitt who is a load and Lewan played well walling off, getting to the second level and staying on blocks. Yeah he got burned on a inside move by a lb so he is far from perfect but he can ball. Watch Tuitt against USC and you will see how good he is. On tape Lewan shows quick enough feet imho to play on the left side. Top 20 talent imho. I could not disagree with you more.
    Last edited by Iron City Inc.; 03-09-2014 at 06:15 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Iron City Inc.;594804]
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    Overrated: Taylor Lewan is hands down the most overrated person in this draft. I suspect he will be nothing more than an average RT. He doesn't have the skills to warrant a first round pick. He is a 4th rounder at best.

    Watched the tape of this tackle at the combine a few times and was impressed. How could you not be. He lit it up.
    Took a look at the Michigan / ND game. Tape showed Lewan about half the time matched up with Tuitt who is a load and Lewan played well walling off, getting to the second level and staying on blocks. Yeah he got burned on a inside move by a lb so he is far from perfect but he can ball. Watch Tuitt against USC and you will see how good he is. On tape Lewan shows quick enough feet imho to play on the left side. Top 20 talent imho. I could not disagree with you more.
    Go to the tOSU/Michigan film and watch him literally get ragged dolled and turnstyled by a freshman. Sorry, but on again off again doesn't scream top 10 to me.

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