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Thread: Breaking Down Jason Worilds' Production for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by flippy View Post
    Worilds makes a lot of tackles for an OLB. He's a good football player that's only going to get better. I think he's the best athlete we have at the OLB position on our roster.

    Let's remember he's going through his first near full season learning curve. I think he's gonna dominate next year.
    I think he'll be pretty solid, as long as he can stay healthy. I am glad we actually aren't losing another defender who is hitting his prime. For once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    Jason Worilds is Clark Haggans
    No, he doesn't have his six pack abs. And I think he is more powerful and makes more plays.

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    A sack is a sack?

    By that definition, if you have a James Harrison on your team who gets double and triple teamed, chances are he will be neutralized. DC gameplans for Harrison, at the expense of everyone else. Some guy benefits by slipping in untouched for a couple of sacks, and he is the better player than Harrison...by that definition.

    I would rather have the player who gets gameplanned around, who gets extra attention, who is constantly being chipped by RBs who can't then go out into a pattern. The beneficiary who gets to clean up the trash afterwards can be found anywhere.

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    A sack is a sack?

    By that definition, if you have a James Harrison on your team who gets double and triple teamed, chances are he will be neutralized. DC gameplans for Harrison, at the expense of everyone else. Some guy benefits by slipping in untouched for a couple of sacks, and he is the better player than Harrison...by that definition.

    I would rather have the player who gets gameplanned around, who gets extra attention, who is constantly being chipped by RBs who can't then go out into a pattern. The beneficiary who gets to clean up the trash afterwards can be found anywhere.
    Well obviously everyone would rather have a superior player every time. I'm not at all disputing that. My point is, you can't just discount sacks because a guy missed an assignment or fell down. I would guess that if you did this breakdown on every pass rusher in the NFL, only a small portion of their sack totals would have come from straight up beating their opponent one on one, and a huge portion of their sack totals would come from taking advantage of a screw-up by the offense.

    In a perfect world, you'd have 11 players on your D who are just better than their opponents, but we all know that can't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelblood View Post
    The transition tag is interesting. At first, I thought it was simply a negotiating tactic. But, now, at best, it is simply an overpay for a one year deal. Once Worilds signed the tag, we really lost our negotiating ability. What reasonable offer would he sign now? It just seems weird to me.
    Maybe it is all just part of the bargaining process...first you ensure he remains with the team, then with that investment, you have more time to evaluate him for a long term contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    A sack is a sack?

    By that definition, if you have a James Harrison on your team who gets double and triple teamed, chances are he will be neutralized. DC gameplans for Harrison, at the expense of everyone else. Some guy benefits by slipping in untouched for a couple of sacks, and he is the better player than Harrison...by that definition.

    I would rather have the player who gets gameplanned around, who gets extra attention, who is constantly being chipped by RBs who can't then go out into a pattern. The beneficiary who gets to clean up the trash afterwards can be found anywhere.
    Part of the problem is finding that guy anywhere isnt as easy as it sounds. I'm not a fan of paying 10 mill but I understand why we did it.

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    The "easy sacks" discussion is hilarious.

    Kind of like how Larry Foote would rack up all those tackles after the RB steam rolled him for 5 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelblood View Post
    The transition tag is interesting. At first, I thought it was simply a negotiating tactic. But, now, at best, it is simply an overpay for a one year deal. Once Worilds signed the tag, we really lost our negotiating ability. What reasonable offer would he sign now? It just seems weird to me.
    Don't think he was planning on signing a reasonable deal and the Steelers knew it. So, instead of signing him long term...they wanted to see if he is worth the 8-10 million per that he is going to request. He blows it up this season, then they will pay the man long term...if not they look to the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    Don't think he was planning on signing a reasonable deal and the Steelers knew it. So, instead of signing him long term...they wanted to see if he is worth the 8-10 million per that he is going to request. He blows it up this season, then they will pay the man long term...if not they look to the draft.
    I don't think that is the case IMO. I hope that isn't the case. Personally, I think the Steelers are close to a long term deal right now and they wanted to use the transition tag as a precautionary measure incase they couldn't get the deal done by the start of FA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    I don't think that is the case IMO. I hope that isn't the case. Personally, I think the Steelers are close to a long term deal right now and they wanted to use the transition tag as a precautionary measure incase they couldn't get the deal done by the start of FA.
    You can play both sides of this one. If they sign him long term now, they will pay less, but aren't 100% certain of what they are getting. If they let him play for 9.7 million and he blows it up, they're looking at a Woodley type contract, if he isn't all that, then they spent 9.7 million to find that out before they spend 50-60 million.

    I'd go with the second option just to insure I get what I want rather than hope I get what I want.

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