Worried we'll try to fill a need w/ another talented but inconsistent Buckeye in Rd 2

**Shawn** · 04-29-2014, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Vader

If you think he's better than Vick throwing the ball you haven't been paying attention or watching a bit of film.

You are entitled to your wrong opinion

**Vader** · 04-29-2014, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Shawn

You are entitled to your wrong opinion

As are you

**ikestops85** · 04-30-2014, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Vader

If you think he's better than Vick throwing the ball you haven't been paying attention or watching a bit of film.

I guess it depends on what you mean by throwing the ball. If you are talking arm strength then Vick has Manziel beat by a mile. If you are talking accuracy then I think Manziel wins. If you are talking touch then Manziel wins by a mile.

Manziel reminds me a lot of a guy name Roethlisberger. He is great at playing sandlot ball and making things happen. I think he'll end up a good NFL QB and possibly a great one.

**Shawn** · 04-30-2014, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by ikestops85

I guess it depends on what you mean by throwing the ball. If you are talking arm strength then Vick has Manziel beat by a mile. If you are talking accuracy then I think Manziel wins. If you are talking touch then Manziel wins by a mile.

Manziel reminds me a lot of a guy name Roethlisberger. He is great at playing sandlot ball and making things happen. I think he'll end up a good NFL QB and possibly a great one.

He reminds me of a faster shorter Ben that is for sure. Maybe it's why I like him so much and why I believe he would be a good fit here.

**Vader** · 05-09-2014, 10:35 AM

Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post

I totally disagree with Kirwan. 1 QB in the first round? This is a weak QB class but in the NFL you need a real QB and teams value them highly. I'd be shocked if Manziel were the only (or even the first) QB taken.

Originally Posted by Shawn

I wouldn't be shocked at all. It depends on Cleveland. If they are smart...they would draft like Kirwan suggests. That would be a nightmare duo for years. If Benjamin finds enough fire in his belly to be half as good as he was in those youtube highlights, and with Manziels ability to extend plays that would create crazy mismatch problems for most NFL DBs. This is the scenario I would least like to see with Cleveland. I would much rather them draft Watkins and Carr. I just don't see Carr being anything special. And if you can't get Watkins the ball...not that big of a deal.

I guess Kirwan didn't have a clue what he was talking about.

**feltdizz** · 05-09-2014, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by ikestops85

I guess it depends on what you mean by throwing the ball. If you are talking arm strength then Vick has Manziel beat by a mile. If you are talking accuracy then I think Manziel wins. If you are talking touch then Manziel wins by a mile.

Manziel reminds me a lot of a guy name Roethlisberger. He is great at playing sandlot ball and making things happen. I think he'll end up a good NFL QB and possibly a great one.

touch? I'm not sure about that. Evans bailed him out a lot.

wait.. Vick has NO TOUCH AT ALL... lol.