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    Worried we'll try to fill a need w/ another talented but inconsistent Buckeye in Rd 2

    The Steelers seem to have a warm spot in their hearts for underachieving athletic specimen from Ohio State.

    We took Mike Adams in round 2 because physically he was everything you look for in an OT, and we had a need there. However, our scouts seemed to be drooling more over potential than focusing on what kind of a football player Adams was.

    Now I fear we could go that route again after Bradley Roby ran a sub-4.4 at the combine and we have a need at CB. Sure he has all the physical tools, but on the field he seemed to get torched as often as Adams got beat off the edge. Hopefully they don't fall into this trap again in round 2.

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    I wouldnt mind Roby in 2 or 3, at the very least he could be a FS convert

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    I wouldnt mind Roby in 2 or 3, at the very least he could be a FS convert
    We already signed our starting FS and he's relatively young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    We already signed our starting FS and he's relatively young.
    That was posted well before FA started

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    Quote Originally Posted by K Train View Post
    That was posted well before FA started
    Ahhh... gotcha. I didn't recognize this thread for some reason.

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    Yea know, just stop it, Rooneys. First and foremost look at how a player PLAYED in FOOTBALL GAMES.

    Stop thinking you can take physical skills and hone them into BECOMING a good player. If they weren't a good player, forget their measurable physical skills. There is a reason the skills didn't produce RESULTS at the lower level, and it's highly unlikely those skills will produce at the next level. Take a page out of the Jimmy Johnson and Big Tuna's book. Those guys knew what they were doing, as did the great Bill Polian. Pgh tries to get too cute. Stop it. Remember Mike Mamula and Vernon Gholston (and countless others)? Their measurable physical skills were out of this world, but they didn't really produce in college and they never produced in the NFL. As a matter of fact, they sucked.

    Stick to players who were very productive on the college level. Forget thinking that you can "coach up" players who's production does not match their physical skills. Players missing desire, instincts and work ethic can't be fixed. Stop thinking you can do so. They thought they could coach up Curtis Brown to _learn_ how to play. Impossible: He sucked, he sucks, and he always will. Adams was a sloppy, lazy, unfocused OT at OSU. Nothing has changes since he has become a pro. Nothing. I think I could beat him rushing the passer. He is awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sick beats View Post
    Yea know, just stop it, Rooneys. First and foremost look at how a player PLAYED in FOOTBALL GAMES.

    Stop thinking you can take physical skills and hone them into BECOMING a good player. If they weren't a good player, forget their measurable physical skills. There is a reason the skills didn't produce RESULTS at the lower level, and it's highly unlikely those skills will produce at the next level. Take a page out of the Jimmy Johnson and Big Tuna's book. Those guys knew what they were doing, as did the great Bill Polian. Pgh tries to get too cute. Stop it. Remember Mike Mamula and Vernon Gholston (and countless others)? Their measurable physical skills were out of this world, but they didn't really produce in college and they never produced in the NFL. As a matter of fact, they sucked.

    Stick to players who were very productive on the college level. Forget thinking that you can "coach up" players who's production does not match their physical skills. Players missing desire, instincts and work ethic can't be fixed. Stop thinking you can do so. They thought they could coach up Curtis Brown to _learn_ how to play. Impossible: He sucked, he sucks, and he always will. Adams was a sloppy, lazy, unfocused OT at OSU. Nothing has changes since he has become a pro. Nothing. I think I could beat him rushing the passer. He is awful.
    What happened to Jarvis Jones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post
    What happened to Jarvis Jones?
    Last I saw, in the Cleveland game, he was terrorizing the opponent's offense. It's not unusual for a rookie to need a year to get acclimated to the NFL. Did you not realize that? JJ will end up as a very productive player. Do you think every player who ended up being good was great as a rookie? Is that your belief? Bruce Smith stunk as a rookie and he only ended up with more sacks than any other player in the history of the NFL. Did you realize that? Are you aware of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sick beats View Post
    Last I saw, in the Cleveland game, he was terrorizing the opponent's offense. It's not unusual for a rookie to need a year to get acclimated to the NFL. Did you not realize that? JJ will end up as a very productive player. Do you think every player who ended up being good was great as a rookie? Is that your belief? Bruce Smith stunk as a rookie and he only ended up with more sacks than any other player in the history of the NFL. Did you realize that? Are you aware of that?
    Maybe Adams needs some time to develop as well. And good coaching...

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