WR Jordan Matthews measurements at the combine

[Eddie Spaghetti]

mike evans certainly looks impressive this morning

[8467thekraken]

Certainly would have no problem taking K. Benjamin at 15. You have Calvin Johnson. Larry Fitzgerald. I see Benjamin landing right in the middle. Nice value at 15 for that type of player.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

great times by matthews today. 4.46 official

wonder if this pushes him out of our reach in the 2nd?

[Shawn]

great times by matthews today. 4.46 official

wonder if this pushes him out of our reach in the 2nd?

It certainly could.

[Dee Dub]

This is the thing that has baffled me all last season (college). Both Jordan Matthews and Donte Moncrief (4.40 40 at 6'2 225), have been considered the second tier of WR's. And even after both have blown it up here at the combine, I'm hearing and reading they still aren't even in the top 5. And that means they are going to be a steal in round two. Devon Street has look good as well.
To the experts these are the one's who are first rounders...


1-Sammy Watkins
2-Mike Evans
3-Marqise Lee

4-Kelvin Benjamin
5-Odell Beckham Jr./Brandon Cooks


and if this is the case, the Steelers have a great chance at getting either Matthews or Moncrief.

[Shoe]

This is the thing that has baffled me all last season (college). Both Jordan Matthews and Donte Moncrief (4.40 40 at 6'2 225), have been considered the second tier of WR's. And even after both have blown it up here at the combine, I'm hearing and reading they still aren't even in the top 5. And that means they are going to be a steal in round two. Devon Street has look good as well.
To the experts these are the one's who are first rounders...


1-Sammy Watkins
2-Mike Evans
3-Marqise Lee

4-Kelvin Benjamin
5-Odell Beckham Jr./Brandon Cooks


and if this is the case, the Steelers have a great chance at getting either Matthews or Moncrief.

Or even the kid Landry from LSU. The bottom line being: There is tremendous value in Rounds 2-3 in the WR class this year. But if we take a Mike Evans or Benjamin at 15, we don't get a chance to directly benefit from that value.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

allen robinson was one WR who I have seen rated ahead of matthews in a lot of mocks. That could change after today.

robinson could be there in the 2nd. Haven't seen as much of him as I live in SEC country, but seems like a guy who could be a good #2 and RZ target, maybe.

I want nothing to do with marquise lee in the 1st or 2nd.

[papillon]

Did they change the format of the combine and actually put them in pads with an NFL quarterback and cornerback playing? Or, are they still running free routes in gym shorts and T-shirts? Personally, the only reason I'd go to the combine as a GM or coach is to interview the player face-to-faceand try to put him under mental pressure and see how he responds, other than that, a waste of time, IMO.

Pappy

[Eddie Spaghetti]

I don't feel the combine is a waste of time. Certainly not the be all/end all, but there are some things to be learned in the drills.

[papillon]

I don't feel the combine is a waste of time. Certainly not the be all/end all, but there are some things to be learned in the drills.

I'm sure there is, otherwise, they wouldn't go, but as an outsider looking in, I just don't see the purpose in the drills, lifting, sprinting, etc. and in particular the top players. The top players probably have 2 or 3 years worth of tape in actual games against other football players, it just seems like this is something the NFL drummed up to help fill the football void from February to late April or early May and from there to July. It's the NFL marketing department keeping the NFL front and center during a time when there are no games. Every year 1 or 2 workout warriors impress someone with their speed, agility and strength and get over drafted, you'd think the coaches and GMs would have figured this out by now.

If a player is good in pads against other football players, I'll take him over a player who is faster and stronger, but can't play football as well.

Pappy