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    Does Tomlin Hire Assistants Like A Coach Afraid For His Job?

    To me, it appears that Tomlin has no fear of losing his job...

    Either that, or he has enough self-confidence that he does not see Munchak (or Haley for that matter) as a threat...

    I think Tomlin believes that he will either coach well enough to keep his job or that he will be fired, regardless of who is on the staff, so why not hire the best people available?

    And Tomlin is trusting Porter, who was very much a hotheaded player, to behave as a coach should behave...

    Unless Art II is pulling the strings, as was hypothesized last season when Haley was hired...no such rumors with the Munchak hire this year, however...

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    I don't think he's the least bit afraid of losing his job. First, he's a pretty confident dude to begin with. Second, he's got a really good record overall. Third, he's won a Super Bowl and been to two. If he lost his job with the Steelers, I don't think he'd have any trouble finding employment elsewhere. I don't know what really happened with the Arians firing and Haley hiring. But I hope that by this point in his head coaching career, he's allowed to make HIS choices and let the chips fall where they may.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eich View Post
    I don't think he's the least bit afraid of losing his job. First, he's a pretty confident dude to begin with. Second, he's got a really good record overall. Third, he's won a Super Bowl and been to two. If he lost his job with the Steelers, I don't think he'd have any trouble finding employment elsewhere. I don't know what really happened with the Arians firing and Haley hiring. But I hope that by this point in his head coaching career, he's allowed to make HIS choices and let the chips fall where they may.
    OK, I think the truth is fairly obvious. This is the team that took away Chuck Noll's authority to hire and fire, after winning an insane FOUR Super Bowls. It's what was the final straw in Chuck staying or retiring. Rooneys said he had to fire some of this staff, and Chuck said to cram walnuts. I read an article where it said "Tomlin" changed his assistant philosophy from going with youth and untested coaches, to much older, veteran coaches (With J-Peezy being the one exception, and I guess Lake of last year). Tomlin hasn't changed ANYthing in his philosophy; the Rooneys have stepped in an mandated these recent hires, make no mistake about it. Tomlin has had his wings clips, progressively since after the 2011 season. Each year, as their success wanes, MT has less and less power. Come on. You really think it was MT who decided to "retire" Arians and bring in Haley? If you think that, I got some prime swampland to sell you. Haley was a Pgh boy all along; his dad worked for the Steelers and he used to be a ball boy. That was 100% a Rooney hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sick beats View Post
    OK, I think the truth is fairly obvious. This is the team that took away Chuck Noll's authority to hire and fire, after winning an insane FOUR Super Bowls. It's what was the final straw in Chuck staying or retiring. Rooneys said he had to fire some of this staff, and Chuck said to cram walnuts. I read an article where it said "Tomlin" changed his assistant philosophy from going with youth and untested coaches, to much older, veteran coaches (With J-Peezy being the one exception, and I guess Lake of last year). Tomlin hasn't changed ANYthing in his philosophy; the Rooneys have stepped in an mandated these recent hires, make no mistake about it. Tomlin has had his wings clips, progressively since after the 2011 season. Each year, as their success wanes, MT has less and less power. Come on. You really think it was MT who decided to "retire" Arians and bring in Haley? If you think that, I got some prime swampland to sell you. Haley was a Pgh boy all along; his dad worked for the Steelers and he used to be a ball boy. That was 100% a Rooney hire.
    i think the rooneys gave him some leeway early but he has proven incapable of making great draft picks or hires.
    tomlin is either smart enough to know that he must surround himself with good experienced coaches to make up for his deficiencies or the rooneys know that and they have made the hires. i think past history shows the latter.
    hopefully they take away most of his influence come draft this year. he hasnt been able to replace cowhers players and win with his own.
    without a doubt tomlin would be hired in a minute if he was available, but unless he went to the handful of really stable orginizations, he would be exposed as an an average coach.
    i dont think tomlin is scared of losing his job. he knows why he was hired and what his role is. as long as he does what he is told and represent the team properly, he will be here awhile. win or lose.
    steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    i think the rooneys gave him some leeway early but he has proven incapable of making great draft picks or hires.
    tomlin is either smart enough to know that he must surround himself with good experienced coaches to make up for his deficiencies or the rooneys know that and they have made the hires. i think past history shows the latter.
    hopefully they take away most of his influence come draft this year. he hasnt been able to replace cowhers players and win with his own.
    without a doubt tomlin would be hired in a minute if he was available, but unless he went to the handful of really stable orginizations, he would be exposed as an an average coach.
    i dont think tomlin is scared of losing his job. he knows why he was hired and what his role is. as long as he does what he is told and represent the team properly, he will be here awhile. win or lose.
    He is safe unless the bottom just completely drops out. He realizes that the Rooneys practically masturbate at their record of super low head coaching changes since 1970. After all their bragging on that issue, they will be super slow to make any changes, which could be bad for us fans this time around. I have never seen more praise for a coach who shows such poor decision making as Tomlin. Is there any other head coaches who could find a way to lose to Tim Tebow with the team MT had that play off game? He chose - and stayed with - the only D game plan that could allow Tebow to win, and he stubbornly stuck with it (all man-to-man, no safety help ever for deep balls) even in OT. That was the worst coaching job I have ever witnessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eich View Post
    I don't think he's the least bit afraid of losing his job. First, he's a pretty confident dude to begin with. Second, he's got a really good record overall. Third, he's won a Super Bowl and been to two. If he lost his job with the Steelers, I don't think he'd have any trouble finding employment elsewhere. I don't know what really happened with the Arians firing and Haley hiring. But I hope that by this point in his head coaching career, he's allowed to make HIS choices and let the chips fall where they may.
    Well, the only way he is "afraid of losing his job" would be to not go along with who the Rooneys say to hire, like Chuck Noll did in 1990. Rooneys told Chuck to fire some of his assistants, and Noll said hit the bricks. Tomlin is very much accepting the coaches who the Rooneys hire. They went from a model of going with young, unproven coaches to hire dudes with a lot of years of experience, with Lake and Porter being the exceptions (and they get a pass because they are former Steeler players; had they not been, they wouldn't have gotten a sniff of interest from the team.) All other spots are being given to vets across the board. Did Tomlin come up with that strategy/philosophy change all on his own? Please. Not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slapstick View Post

    Unless Art II is pulling the strings, as was hypothesized last season when Haley was hired...no such rumors with the Munchak hire this year, however...
    The Art II hypothesis was a bunch of BS, IMO. Tomlin makes the decisions on who his assistants will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    The Art II hypothesis was a bunch of BS, IMO. Tomlin makes the decisions on who his assistants will be.
    I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    The Art II hypothesis was a bunch of BS, IMO. Tomlin makes the decisions on who his assistants will be.
    And to support this assertion, you point to what evidence and logic? Overnight the assistant coaching philosophy changed, and you attribute this to Tomlin? No way. The Rooneys are pulling the strings on personnel and coaches. It is overwhelmingly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    The Art II hypothesis was a bunch of BS, IMO. Tomlin makes the decisions on who his assistants will be.
    Really? You think he hired LeBeau and Arians? You think he's the one that's all but promised Keith Butler, another 3-4 defensive coach, the job when LeBeau retires? He said Arians was coming back just before Art fired him and brought in Dick Haley's boy.

    I think he looks like a coach who's growing frustrated over his lack of control, as he should be.
    Last edited by WindyCitySteel; 10-11-2014 at 10:00 AM.

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