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    How the Steelers Offense can become Dangerous

    BY LEVI COMBS - FEB 11TH, 2014



    What the Pittsburgh Steelers offense showed us during the second half of last season has Steelers Nation around the football world salivating. We saw the offensive line actually keep Big Benís jersey from being ripped to shreds and gave LeíVeon Bell his first 100 yard game and a couple 80+ yard games. Ben threw for over 300 yards 7 out of the final 9 games. We were looking at a pretty good offense, but it can get better. Hereís how each offensive positional unit can turn this offense into a nightmare for opposing defenses.

    Quarterback
    The only thing that the quarterback position can do in order to make the offense better really doesnít have much to do with the quarterback at all Ė it lies with Todd Haley allowing Ben to use more no huddle. Thatís when we started seeing the offense click and play really well. As the depth chart goes, the Steelers have a perfect situation. They have a franchise quarterback who has won them 2 rings, an experienced backup who doesnít have medicare (Iím kidding with a reference to Charlie Batch and Byron Leftwich), and a young, developmental player who is waiting in the wings.

    Running Back
    If this was written one year ago, this segment would be 3 paragraphs long. Fortunately for the Steelers, there will be no running back competition for the starting gig in this yearís camp. LeíVeon Bell showed glimpses of being outstanding last year, and when he didnít run for more than 10 yards, he was earning every yard he got. However, in order to be set for the running back position, they need a short yardage back and a speedster. The Steelers would be smart to bring back Jonathan Dwyer as their short yardage back. He will be cheap and knows the system.

    To the draft is where the Steelers can find a steal by drafting Oregonís DeAnthony Thomas later in the draft. Not only can he provide a faster guy at the running back position, he can play special teams too, because we are all tired of seeing Felix Jones return kicks. To the fullback position, all I got to say is someone needs to tell Todd Haley that Will Johnson can catch. He could be another part of this offense that makes it dangerous, and I personally hope that he does.

    Wide Receiver
    Antonio Brown quieted all the doubters out there about being a number one receiver. He is a dangerous receiver who is developing some serious chemistry with Ben. Markus Wheaton needs to show why the Steelers drafted him in the third round. He doesnít have the speed that Mike Wallace has, but that doesnít mean he canít take the top off of the defense. Charlie Batch even thinks he will break out this season. He needs to become a reliable second or third receiver this season in order for the offense to take off. Next on the priority list is for the Steelers to sign back Jerricho Cotchery. I am willing to bet he will take a discount to stay with the Steelers, even if he is scooted back on the depth chart. He could be the best fourth receiver in the game.

    That leaves one receiver left for the number two spot to battle with Wheaton. Itís time that the Steelers take a big, tall receiver, and Kelvin Benjamin gives them just that in the second round. Could you imagine a receiving corps of Antonio Brown, a breakout Wheaton, a tall receiver with good hands in Benjamin, and then your fourth receiver would be Cotchery, a guy who had 10 touchdowns last year.

    Tight End
    Heath Miller is staying in Pittsburgh this year, he will not be cut even if he is a cap casualty. Matt Spaeth will more than likely be back because there is no one else who can replace the blocking skills he has, and thatís what he will do all season long next year. But the Steelers need a developmental tight end who can replace Heath Miller one day, yes, I am dreading the day too.

    I personally think the top tight ends will drop this year due to the many other needs by teams, and the Steelers could grab their next superstar in the middle rounds. If the Steelers grabbed Austin Seferian-Jenkins in third round, they would have their guy. He is HUGE! He even draws Gronkowski like comparisons. Could you imagine pairing him Heath Miller. Big Ben would have a hay day seeing Kelvin Benjamin and Jenkins drafted up in consecutive rounds. They would be set with Heath, a stud blocker in Spaeth, and Jenkins with tremendous upside.

    Offensive Line
    The Steelers made this a unit to watch for when they hired Mike Munchak. He has done wonders with previous offensive lines, and look what he has to work with! Pouncey is one of the best centers in the game. DeCastro could be an all-pro by next season. Two second round picks in Gilbert and Adams who picked up their play the second half of the season. Mr. Reliable, Ramon Foster, who just wonít say no to a backup position. Then thereís Kelvin Beachum, who came out of no where, manned the left tackle spot, and did an admirable job at that. Hiring Mike Munckak could be the coaching move of the year and am personally excited to see the places he can take this offensive line too.

    Thatís it. All the Steelers have to do is bring in a speedster at running back, draft a tall receiver, pick up a monster at tight end, get their fullback going, and hand over every single job there could possible be regarding the offensive line to Mike Munchak and never look back. This offense can be scary next year.

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    Benjamin would be nice in the second... a few concerns are his hands, weight and laziness. I have no idea if these are true but a few guys on sports radio said he had suspect hands and a reputation of being lazy. I would hate to draft another big WR in the 2nd who has issues.

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    Looks like a solid assessment of the offense, and a solid draft plan...
    if we didn't have so many needs on defense. It's a shame that we don't have 2 picks per round...lol.

    and, I agree... Will Johnson is a weapon that they need to utilize more.

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    Moye has 8 1/4" hands. I mean, that doesn't say he can't catch a football, but them are some damn small hands, especially with a 6'4" guy. He seems like a guy with great work ethic and desire, but that only gets you so far.

    I suppose it is what you expect out of a guy like him. If you think he would make a good #4 WR or even a #3, then I can see that. I don't see him being a starter at all.

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    Show me exactly which games Gilbert and Adams stepped up their play in? Adams was pathetic all season long. Gilbert only looked good because he was moving up from a very low bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoe View Post
    Moye has 8 1/4" hands. I mean, that doesn't say he can't catch a football, but them are some damn small hands, especially with a 6'4" guy. He seems like a guy with great work ethic and desire, but that only gets you so far.

    I suppose it is what you expect out of a guy like him. If you think he would make a good #4 WR or even a #3, then I can see that. I don't see him being a starter at all.
    I have pointed this out in several other posts. People can get a man crush on the next "underdog" like Redman but don't ever expect much. Guys like Harrison and Willie Parker are the rare exceptions.
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    Yes, lets ignore a crippled D and invest more in the Steelers strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    Yes, lets ignore a crippled D and invest more in the Steelers strength.

    If you can't get an immediate impact on defense, then yes you should rely on the offense to carry more of the load. This is a multi-year defense rebuilt so you aren't going to be able to get a player who will likely contrbute much their first year or two. Try to say that isn't true all you want but the reality is that is more true than not on this defense.

    Knowing that, why not build a dominant offense until the defense catches up? What is really funny in this debate of offense versus defense is that it seems to be OK to get our starting WRs in Round 3, Round 6, whenever but when it is defense it seems like we have to spend top picks or people lose their minds. We spent a top pick on defense last year and got nothing. Why then would we repeat that this season?

    Too many years of the offense playing second fiddle to the defense in terms of picks and contract extensions. I have no problem flipping the equation for a year or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oviedo View Post
    If you can't get an immediate impact on defense, then yes you should rely on the offense to carry more of the load. This is a multi-year defense rebuilt so you aren't going to be able to get a player who will likely contrbute much their first year or two. Try to say that isn't true all you want but the reality is that is more true than not on this defense.

    Knowing that, why not build a dominant offense until the defense catches up? What is really funny in this debate of offense versus defense is that it seems to be OK to get our starting WRs in Round 3, Round 6, whenever but when it is defense it seems like we have to spend top picks or people lose their minds. We spent a top pick on defense last year and got nothing. Why then would we repeat that this season?

    Too many years of the offense playing second fiddle to the defense in terms of picks and contract extensions. I have no problem flipping the equation for a year or two.
    You want to rebuid a bad D with mid rounders when everyone says we need talent... yeah, thats smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCoast View Post
    Show me exactly which games Gilbert and Adams stepped up their play in? Adams was pathetic all season long. Gilbert only looked good because he was moving up from a very low bottom.
    This is why they brought in one of the best oline coaches in the league.

    Munchak runs a complicated/intricate blocking scheme. It mixes zone and gap fundamentals into what I think is a very unique blocking scheme. It will be very interesting to see how quickly it can be put in place. With a 1 cut runner and athletic olinemen we could be very exciting in the running game next year. At the very least Gilbert, Adams, and Beachem are highly athletic linemen

    Look at what he did with Roos and Stewart... he molded pro bowl caliber tackles out of unpolished stones

    The last 8 games last season ben was hit the least in his career, sacked the least in his career, and the running game showed life. Haleys timing offense with munchak makes oline low on the list of needs going into this season imo, unless robinson or matthews falls

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