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    Ike Taylor on R Sherman

    Have to agree with Ike Taylor. Man, if the guy had hands, he might be recognized as one of the top 5 CBs of all time:

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    Ike Taylor dishes on Richard Sherman

    By Christopher Carter on Feb 1 2014, 8:58a 55


    Ike Taylor breaks up a pass to Josh Gordon. - Jason Bridge-USA TODAY Sports




    In a pre-Super Bowl interview this week, Ike Taylor was asked his opinion on Richard Sherman's declaration as the best cornerback in the league.
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    In a CBS interview, Ike Taylor was brought into the "best cornerback" conversation that has been featured prominently on sports shows since the Seattle Seahawks beat the San Francisco 49ers for the NFC conference championship.
    Taylor, the 33 year old veteran and two-time Super Bowl champion, did acknowledge that the Seattle cornerback, Richard Sherman, has the best statistical resume as a cornerback in the NFL over the past three years, but did not agree on the notion that he is the indefinite best of the league.
    "If you want to talk about being the best corner, you have to match up against the best receiver every game," Taylor said. "[You have to do that] for years in and years out. Not just one year but pretty much your whole career. I've matched up since '05 and this is 2014. So until he can match up and play the team's top receiver week in and week out, he's a good corner; but to say he's the best corner, you've just to humble yourself just a little by saying that."
    Taylor references the fact that Sherman's role in Seattle's defense is to cover one side of the ball, rather than cover a specific person every week. Taylor is routinely the cornerback the Steelers have assigned to cover their opponents' best receiver each game since the middle of the 2005 season, when ironically the Steelers defeated the Seattle Seahawks in super bowl XL.
    While Taylor's words might not be loud enough to capture the eyes and ears, but they speak a truth to the NFL about players and longevity. Taylor has been around long enough to see many players achieve all-pro success but soon fade away in their performance.
    A perfect example would be a cornerback drafted by the Oakland Raiders in the first round of 2003, the same year when Ike Taylor was drafted in the fourth round, by the name of Nnamdi Asomugha. Asomugha made a big splash in the NFL with his fourth season when he amassed eight interceptions and earned his first all-pro honors. Asomugha would eventually end his tenure in Oakland and become the highest sought free agent entering the 2011 season, when he signed with the Philadelphia Eagles for a five-year $60 million dollar contract.
    Soon after he signed for the Eagles, Asomugha did not produce in the manner which Philadelphia expected. He did have four interceptions in his two-years there, but his play was not consistent enough and he was released before his third season. Today, Asomugha is a retired NFL player after his third stint with a team, the San Francisco 49ers, failed.
    Taylor in that time has won two super bowls and been an important role in the Steelers' defense which has been the top-ranked defense multiple times in his career. Even this offseason his role on the team is held in high regard and he remains a player that
    must be kept on the roster. While Asomugha has come and gone in multiple schemes, Taylor has remained the best cornerback on his team that has been the league's best defense multiple times during his tenure in Pittsburgh.
    Whether Sherman will or won't continue his exceptional play at cornerback throughout his career is a question that only time can answer. However this Sunday he has an opportunity to go up against one of the best, if not the best, top-three-receiver tandems this year in the NFL; oh and a guy named Peyton Manning.

    Sherman's performance this weekend could either be the firm stamp as a champion on his NFL resume, or be the door left open after his bold declaration as the best in the league. Should the latter of the two occur, Taylor's point of longevity may ring a little louder during the 2014 offseason.

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    I dont care what his role is... if he is shutting down one side of the field and getting 8 INT's he will be considered the best in the game right now.

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    I'm pretty sure that Patrick Peterson said the same thing about Sherman, calling him out for only playing one side and not shadowing the other team's best WR.

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    Ike should be the last to talk and I hope he's not referring to himself, because he's not Even top 10 and haven't been over his career.

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    I would take Sherman over any cb in the league right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Patrick Peterson said the same thing about Sherman, calling him out for only playing one side and not shadowing the other team's best WR.
    Ike Taylor is the most under appreciated Steeler of this era, for this very reason. Almost every Sunday for almost the last ten years, he has faced the very best receivers in the NFL, with minimal assistance, and held them below their own standard. He had receivers who were used to seeing the ball thrown their way around ten times a game targeted half that many times. He routinely would hold receivers who were used to putting up 100 yards a game to 50. He could step up in the run game and tackle as well as any corner in the game.

    To prove how bad the comparisons are... We know how Ike has done against Megatron, Green, Gordon, etc. How would Sherman do? Answer...We will never find out because he does not get that much responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    Ike Taylor is the most under appreciated Steeler of this era, for this very reason. Almost every Sunday for almost the last ten years, he has faced the very best receivers in the NFL, with minimal assistance, and held them below their own standard. He had receivers who were used to seeing the ball thrown their way around ten times a game targeted half that many times. He routinely would hold receivers who were used to putting up 100 yards a game to 50. He could step up in the run game and tackle as well as any corner in the game.

    To prove how bad the comparisons are... We know how Ike has done against Megatron, Green, Gordon, etc. How would Sherman do? Answer...We will never find out because he does not get that much responsibility.

    spot on.
    if ike could catch, he would have been one of the best ever all around cb's
    1) CB D Dennard
    2) OLB R Shazier
    3) DE J Ellis
    4) WR M Bryant
    5a) OG D Yankey
    5b) OLB J Tripp
    6a) RB D Archer
    6b) NT D McCullers
    7) WR J Janis

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o. View Post
    Ike Taylor is the most under appreciated Steeler of this era, for this very reason. Almost every Sunday for almost the last ten years, he has faced the very best receivers in the NFL, with minimal assistance, and held them below their own standard. He had receivers who were used to seeing the ball thrown their way around ten times a game targeted half that many times. He routinely would hold receivers who were used to putting up 100 yards a game to 50. He could step up in the run game and tackle as well as any corner in the game.

    To prove how bad the comparisons are... We know how Ike has done against Megatron, Green, Gordon, etc. How would Sherman do? Answer...We will never find out because he does not get that much responsibility.
    Well.. we know how Ike did against Megatron and it wasnt pretty until we gave him help.... we also know what Ike did versus Denver with Tebow. Now we will get a chance to see what Sherman does vs Denver with Manning.

    Ike is good... but he isnt that good. Ike and Sherman benefit from playing on teams with a great pass rush when they were in their prime. The difference is Sherman is catching the ball when its thrown his direction.

    I have no idea who covered AJ Green in the playoffs but he was held to 3 catches for 34 yards vs San Diego. While its nice to have that stat he still won't be in the convo for best CB if he doesn't have INT'S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    spot on.
    if ike could catch, he would have been one of the best ever all around cb's
    True... but unfortunately he can't catch.

    If Sweed could catch
    If Woodley could stay healthy
    If Wallace could hugh point the ball

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Well.. we know how Ike did against Megatron and it wasnt pretty until we gave him help.... we also know what Ike did versus Denver with Tebow. Now we will get a chance to see what Sherman does vs Denver with Manning.

    Ike is good... but he isnt that good. Ike and Sherman benefit from playing on teams with a great pass rush when they were in their prime. The difference is Sherman is catching the ball when its thrown his direction.

    I have no idea who covered AJ Green in the playoffs but he was held to 3 catches for 34 yards vs San Diego. While its nice to have that stat he still won't be in the convo for best CB if he doesn't have INT'S.

    Way to point out 2 games in 10 years. Maybe, just maybe, you had two bad days at the office in the last 10 yrs....

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