IMO I would rather take his teammate Stephon Tuittt who I think will be a more impressive NFL player.
If you're just looking for a 2-gap tackle who will take up space, I don't know that you need to spend a first-round pick on him. You should be able to find that player in later rounds (put him on the "see food" diet and teach him the position).
Well lets make sure we are Apples for Apples. NGata is a NT & stays on the field in sub much like Dontari Poe. Nix isn't either of them. Lotulelei is a 4-3 DT who sees time in sub rotation. Raji is a 3-4 DE who see time in sub too. Cody backs up Ngata.
Defensive snaps in 2013:
Poe NT 88%
Ngata NT 65%
Lotulelei DT 59%
Raji DE 58%
C Thomas NT 48%
Solila DT/NT 46%
Pickett NT 46%
McClendon & Woods NT (Combined) 53%
Snap counts low for the "other" typical NTs. In 34 games, Nix has 2.5 sacks & 5 hurries. That doesn't jump off the page as a pass rusher. In consideration for what role he would have...Who comes off the field instead of Nix? 2 DL in sub...Heyward is not coming off the field. Keisel/Hood was the other. If Hood does come back...He will slide inside with Heyward. Will he get snaps in rotation in sub? I would say he would...He can give you a couple plays in pass rush but those subs happen less & less because of the speed of the game.
The Nix debate has become pretty intense. I will say with certainty that Nix would upgrade the NT spot on the Steelers...I have no doubts. Just simply based on how much he will be on the field...I devalue him at #15. Would I draft him in the 1st in the 20's? Absolutely. You give me Nix & a 3rd...I'm happy with that value. There will be many players available @ #15 who will be graded higher imo. It could be a matter of timing too. I'll just use "names" to show my example. It would be great to see this secondary but you will understand the thought process. For 2014, if you give me a Jairus Byrd/Kendrick Lewis & Troy at safeties...With a Rodgers-Cromartie/Verner & C Allen at CB...I would feel differently about Nix at #15. Because that base package can stay on the field if the offense shows me 12 personnel. That base could play Cover 1 or Cover 0. My defense isn't impacted by personnel groups based on down & distance on 1&2 unless I see 3 WRS. Now the offense will see that front & know it will be difficult to run against it & try & pass. It will have to come out quick because if the D goes Cover 0 behind a run blitz...It better be a 3 step drop. That's why I say "matter of timing". The secondary needs to get fixed first. Drafting Nix doesn't fix the biggest problem. It fixes "a problem" but without other pieces in place...Offenses will still dictate the packages because of the weakness. The BIGGER problem to all of this is it can't get fixed through the draft for 2014. That is a long shot to rely on rookies to turn it around in this defense. So if the Steelers step out of their comfort zone & sign some defensive FA to help expedite the process...Taking Nix in the 1st would become more appealing. Still wouldn't think it is necessary to take him at #15...But I would agree more with the direction.
JPN--you hit the nail on the head when you said
As you do an outstanding job describing he doesn't solve the biggest problem. If what so many want is a "run stuffer" you can get that later in the draft. Pick #15 is pretty high for us and you need to get someone who will make a significant impact on either defense or offense.Drafting Nix doesn't fix the biggest problem. It fixes "a problem" but without other pieces in place...Offenses will still dictate the packages because of the weakness.
I find it odd that so many people scream about how the DL 3-4 scheme works if you have talent and then people turn around and say they can find a player in later rounds and teach him how to play the most important position in a 3-4.
It all starts with the NT in a 3-4. It's like going out and signing a Mahan to play Center.... no, if you have a chance to get a C in the first who can be your starter for the next 10 years (unless his own G jumps on his leg) you have to take him.
I'm not saying Nix is THAT guy but if we think he is we need to take him.
Last edited by feltdizz; 01-17-2014 at 04:15 PM.