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    Louis Nix III

    The scouting for the 2014 draft is early but I may have recently had my mind changed on Nix. I would like to share what I have come across.

    Why Nix makes sense...
    -The Steelers have a huge need at NT
    -Nix is clearly the best NT in this draft
    -The Steelers generally don't put high draft picks into their secondary
    -With the rule changes pass rush is where you put your money
    -Nix is an elite run stopper and the Steelers couldn't stop a runny nose this season.

    My initial objections to Nix...

    -Too big
    -Two down player
    -Conditioning issues
    -Knee issues
    -thought he got dominated by Bama, due to the poor ND showing in the National.


    And this is the danger with making assessments outside of your comfort zone. Big Ten...I've watched em play...Notre Dame...not so much. So, I came across this bleacher report which really changed my mind about how I was looking at Nix.

    Check it out and tell me what you think. If this assessment of his talent is correct...and Nix is there at 15...I believe he is the pick.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-louis-nix-iii

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    I know they are definitely not the "end all and be all" as far as concise Steelers coverage, but the Depot has an article detailing how well McClendon actually was against the run this year. Kinda surprised me.
    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/12...e-run-in-2013/

    Relevant facts from the article include: When McClendon was on the field, opponents ran up the middle 47 times for 103 yards (an average of 2.19 ypc), with only 1 rush going for more than 10 yards. Moreover, PFF had McClendon graded out as the Steelers best run defender this year with a grade of 5.7 . There's more, but the gist of it for me is that it's possible the team might not see a 1st round NT as a necessity. Unless ... they plan to move McClendon to DE and let Hood walk ... Which may depend on how well they feel Arnfelt (sp) has picked things up.
    So, who knows? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBuckeye View Post
    I know they are definitely not the "end all and be all" as far as concise Steelers coverage, but the Depot has an article detailing how well McClendon actually was against the run this year. Kinda surprised me.
    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013/12...e-run-in-2013/

    Relevant facts from the article include: When McClendon was on the field, opponents ran up the middle 47 times for 103 yards (an average of 2.19 ypc), with only 1 rush going for more than 10 yards. Moreover, PFF had McClendon graded out as the Steelers best run defender this year with a grade of 5.7 . There's more, but the gist of it for me is that it's possible the team might not see a 1st round NT as a necessity. Unless ... they plan to move McClendon to DE and let Hood walk ... Which may depend on how well they feel Arnfelt (sp) has picked things up.
    So, who knows? LOL
    The way he defines up the middle is kind of bogus. When he includes left guard to right guard, it is 112 runs for 458 yards, or over 4 YPC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    The way he defines up the middle is kind of bogus. When he includes left guard to right guard, it is 112 runs for 458 yards, or over 4 YPC.
    I understand exactly where you're coming from with that .. just providing another view of McClendon's "performance" this year ... Personally, I think he'd be a better fit at DE ... Keep Arnfeldt (sp) as a backup and future starter .. Which then brings us back to needing a NT ... do you go with Woods and "HOPE" he's good enough? Do you "HOPE" Nix is as good as some think he is ... do you stay status quo and draft an ILB? Heck, I don't know ... that's why Tomlin and Colbert are being paid the big $$$ ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBuckeye View Post
    I understand exactly where you're coming from with that .. just providing another view of McClendon's "performance" this year ... Personally, I think he'd be a better fit at DE ... Keep Arnfeldt (sp) as a backup and future starter .. Which then brings us back to needing a NT ... do you go with Woods and "HOPE" he's good enough? Do you "HOPE" Nix is as good as some think he is ... do you stay status quo and draft an ILB? Heck, I don't know ... that's why Tomlin and Colbert are being paid the big $$$ ..
    I also think McClendon would be better suited as a DE or as a backup NT. Whether at DE or NT, I'm not sure that he's a starter. He seemed better suited to a backup role with limited snaps.

    I agree that you have to do something with NT, but I'm not sure what. I think the ideal player is somebody who is more stout against the run and able to command a double team, but also able to provide a pass rush, or at least an inside push. Who that guy is, or where you find him, I'm not sure.

    It's a shame that Ta'amu is no longer in the mix. He started some games for AZ, and has ideal size and power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyesq View Post
    The way he defines up the middle is kind of bogus. When he includes left guard to right guard, it is 112 runs for 458 yards, or over 4 YPC.
    That article lost all credibility when I read that it doesn't include left guard to right guard. How can you possibly give analysis on a NT's performance when you don't even include that? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelz09 View Post
    That article lost all credibility when I read that it doesn't include left guard to right guard. How can you possibly give analysis on a NT's performance when you don't even include that? lol
    Especially in a system where you want the NT to occupy two blockers. Reaching a bit too much to be a contrarian....

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    Q: After reading Art Rooney's comments about shoring up the run defense, I'm wondering if the team is going to draft a nose tackle. What are your thoughts on that?

    AM: The nose tackle thing, I don't get it. I just don't. I don't think football's played the same way in 2014 as it was in 2001. It's just not. I'm not saying you don't need to get better on run defense. Maybe that doesn't have to do with the nose tackle anyway. Maybe it has something to do with the inside linebacker next to (Lawrence) Timmons growing up a little bit and that kind of stuff. But, a nose tackle in the first round, to me, is an incredibly stupid move. I just don't believe the position merits that kind of attention at 15. We're talking about the 15th player off the board. A nose tackle?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    The scouting for the 2014 draft is early but I may have recently had my mind changed on Nix. I would like to share what I have come across.

    Why Nix makes sense...
    -The Steelers have a huge need at NT
    -Nix is clearly the best NT in this draft
    -The Steelers generally don't put high draft picks into their secondary
    -With the rule changes pass rush is where you put your money
    -Nix is an elite run stopper and the Steelers couldn't stop a runny nose this season.

    My initial objections to Nix...

    -Too big
    -Two down player
    -Conditioning issues
    -Knee issues
    -thought he got dominated by Bama, due to the poor ND showing in the National.


    And this is the danger with making assessments outside of your comfort zone. Big Ten...I've watched em play...Notre Dame...not so much. So, I came across this bleacher report which really changed my mind about how I was looking at Nix.

    Check it out and tell me what you think. If this assessment of his talent is correct...and Nix is there at 15...I believe he is the pick.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-louis-nix-iii
    Just about anyone can write a bleacher report article. That said, I think Nix could push the pocket on 3rd down. He is a very good athlete for his size. Kind of reminds me of Marcel Dareus a bit (though not quite as quick).
    Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelblood View Post
    Just about anyone can write a bleacher report article. That said, I think Nix could push the pocket on 3rd down. He is a very good athlete for his size. Kind of reminds me of Marcel Dareus a bit (though not quite as quick).
    I hear ya, and that is why I ask. My main concern was that Bama game and the author made a good case for Nix being the only ND player to have a good game against Bama.

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