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Thread: The Jason Worilds vs. Sean Lee decision, revisited once again.

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    The Jason Worilds vs. Sean Lee decision, revisited once again.

    The careers of Jason Worilds and Sean Lee will inevitably be forever linked in the minds of Steeler fans ever since we used our 2nd round pick on OLB Worilds (even though we had James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley outside) instead of ILB Lee who went 3 spots later to Dallas (a young ILB next to Lawrence Timmons seemed like more of a need at the time, since James Farrior was nearing the end of his career, leading the team to bring back Larry Foote after his one season back home in Detroit). Many Steeler fans tend to have a soft spot in their hearts for Penn State linebackers, and Lee seemed like a perfect fit at the time.

    When Lee flourished early while Worilds rode the pine, fans got more and more upset with the pick. However, here we are now with Worilds signing a $9 million transition tag to be our starter in place of the departed LaMarr Woodley, and Lee has now torn an ACL for the third time, ending his 2014 season before it has started, and possibly starting to bring his overall career viability into question. Injuries like that are unfortunate and unpredictable, but for the first time in their respective careers, it finally looks like Jason Worilds has a leg up (no pun intended) on Sean Lee.

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    I feel really bad for Sean Lee, his career may very well be over.

    it's also interesting to note that we selected ILB Ryan Shazier right before the Cowboys were going to, Shazier could have really helped them this season with Lee out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteel View Post
    I feel really bad for Sean Lee, his career may very well be over.

    it's also interesting to note that we selected ILB Ryan Shazier right before the Cowboys were going to, Shazier could have really helped them this season with Lee out.
    That is true. What a "heartbreak" for the personnel staff, who were right-on with their instinct (wanting to take Shazier).
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    Sean Lee has been a special player when he's healthy, just not healthy for very long. Looking for big things from JW this year.
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    If the Steelers had drafted Sean Lee, he probably would have been buried on the roster and would not have had opportunity to play at ILB until Foote went down last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    If the Steelers had drafted Sean Lee, he probably would have been buried on the roster and would not have had opportunity to play at ILB until Foote went down last season.
    Would have been hurt in camp or practice

    Some guys are just injury prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    If the Steelers had drafted Sean Lee, he probably would have been buried on the roster and would not have had opportunity to play at ILB until Foote went down last season.
    Oh please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Would have been hurt in camp or practice

    Some guys are just injury prone.
    Kinda like CJ the Raven everyone wanted over Shazier.

    Watch history repeat itself.

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    Report: Jason Worilds, Steelers making no progress

    By Chris Wesseling
    Around the League Writer
    Published: May 28, 2014

    When linebacker Jason Worilds quickly signed the Pittsburgh Steelers' transition tag in early March, there was hope from both sides that a sensible long-term arrangement could be worked out.

    Nearly three months later, the tea leaves suggest Worilds will play out the 2014 season without the security of a long-term contract.

    There have been no productive talks between Worild's camp and the Steelers, reports Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

    The Rooney family has traditionally been reluctant to overpay for their own impending free agents. After getting a poor return on their long-term commitment to LaMarr Woodley, they may be extra hesitant to do the same with another edge rusher ready to cash in.

    Worilds had one of the great contract-year pushes of recent memory, terrorizing offensive linemen with seven sacks and 20 quarterback hits in the final eight games of 2013.

    If he can stretch that level of play over 16 games this season, it will work out well for both player and team.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...ng-no-progress

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    Worilds vs. Sean Lee Today?

    By Ed Bouchette Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    Good morning,

    More bad injury news for Upper St. Clair’s Sean Lee, who reportedly has a torn ACL and will miss the season for the Dallas Cowboys.

    That brings back the debate of whether the Steelers should have drafted him in 2010 instead of Jason Worilds in the second round. Both linebackers, Lee was a dominant player at Penn State but had had injuries to both knees, including an ACL tear.

    The Steelers passed on him in the second round and the Cowboys traded up in the second round to get him. Lee’s career took off while Worilds’ languished with the Steelers. One year ago, it appeared Worilds might be a wasted draft pick. Heading into his final season, he only played when someone was hurt and even when James Harrison opened the 2012 season on the sideline with a knee injury, the Steelers turned to Chris Carter to start and not Worilds.

    Lee became a starter at inside linebacker for the Cowboys in 2011 and last August Dallas signed him to a six-year, $42 million contract that included a $10 million signing bonus. Worilds opened last season as a starter on the right outside but after one game, he was benched in favor of rookie Jarvis Jones. He later resurfaced, reclaimed his career and became a very rich man.

    But who would you take right now – Lee and his history of injuries, including one that apparently will knock him out of the 2014 season? Or Worilds and his nearly $10 million salary this year, having proved himself as a starter really for only half a season?

    The choice is yours.

    Onto some other stuff:

    --- Staying with Worilds, I wrote today that there has been no progress on a contract extension for him and it looks as though he will play this year for that transition tender and then set to become a free agent again in 2015.

    If you are the Steelers, what would you do? And if you are Worilds, what would you do?

    His play in the second half of last season allowed the Steelers to dump LaMarr Woodley, who was rendered ineffective for the past 2 ˝ years. It was costly, both in eating Woodley’s cap room and in paying Worilds nearly $10 million to keep him for another year.

    Would the Steelers offer him a Sean Lee contract of six years, $42 million with a $10 million signing bonus? Worilds and his agent would laugh at that. He’s guaranteed nearly $10 million this year, why commit five more years for little more than the $10 million guaranteed he’s going to get this year anyway?

    The Steelers could go a little higher, but based on Worilds’ history with them, how high could they go? They are not going to pull another LaMarr Woodley and give him that kind of deal (six years, $61.5 million in 2011). Woodley was coming off three straight seasons of at least 10 sacks. Worilds has 18 sacks in four seasons, including a team-high eight in 2013. When Woodley signed his contract, he also was under a one-year, $10 million deal as the team’s franchise player in 2011.

    So it looks as if this impasse will remain, which leaves the Steelers where? Jarvis Jones, their other starter on the outside, started eight games as a rookie and was largely unimpressive. But he was the first rookie OLB to get that kind of playing time in Dick LeBeau’s defense so he gets a pass. He won’t get a pass this year. The Steelers need him to come on and do so immediately.

    If Worilds has a monster season, he will want even more money. The Steelers can put the transition or franchise tag on him one more time and keep him through 2015. After that, they no longer can do so and he would be free in 2016. Of course, there is a lot of football left before then and many things can happen, but either way, the Steelers are thin at what traditionally has been their most productive position on defense. They may have to draft a linebacker in the first round for the third straight time in 2015.

    --- OTA practices are supposed to contain no contact, but that is a joke, as the Lee injury proved again. Contact happens, it cannot be prevented when teams practice 11 on 11 and young cornerbacks are trying to make impressions as they cover receivers, etc.

    --- It appears Cameron Heyward will play right defensive end this season. It is where he spent most of his early career, backing up Brett Keisel. Heyward, however, bumped Ziggy Hood from his starting spot on the left side last year.

    http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/...s/201405280002

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