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    Quote Originally Posted by squidkid View Post
    agreed, but woodley would have to take a 50% paycut for me to want him back.

    A haircut for sure. Nobody is factoring in the cost of Woodley's sub when he is out for 6-8 games. Steelers sign a free agent to handle those duties probably at a cost of $2M a year. So the position on the team is costing them $10M/yr. That is a very lofty number that better have performance to back it up.

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    This guy continually writes drama based articles, remember when he was so irate McClendon was on the bench and not starting over Hampton...yeah how did that work out. All about hits I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papillon View Post
    Regardless of the grades, there isn't enough of a complete body of work for my liking. It seems way to risky to give him 7mil/year for basically the last 8 games of this past season. Woodley at least at the time of his signing had produced for multiple years at a high level. Maybe 7mil/year is the going rate for an incomplete grade, but it seems risky to me.

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    I would agree with you on the complete body of work but when Worilds replaced Woodley on the left side in 2012 he also played extremely well. That makes me feel better about signing him to a long term deal. What does bother me about Worilds is he completely disappears when he plays on the right side. While I understand that there could be a drop off switching positions he is like night and day. It baffles me.
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    Pittsburgh Steelers Must Decide Whether To Keep or Cut LaMarr Woodley

    January 24, 2014
    by Jeff Hartman

    The Pittsburgh Steelers are not in a healthy place in terms of the NFL salary cap heading into the 2014 campaign. As they stand right now, they are $9.6 million over the salary cap heading into free agency. That says a lot about a team searching for answers to a lot of questions this offseason. With their cap situation as it is, it is now time that the Steelers face some tough decisions regarding their roster for the upcoming season.

    You can certainly expect the Steelers to restructure contracts as they usually do to help get in compliance with the NFLís salary cap standards, but there are more dire decisions to make ó decisions in regards to players who have been mainstays on the team for the past several years. Some of the players who will need to be discussed are Ike Taylor, Troy Polamalu and Brett Keisel to name a few, but none loom larger than outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley.

    The question mark that hovers over Woodley isnít simply his contract, what it would cost the team to cut him and whether or not he has anything left in the tank. No, this is also performance based. Woodley was effective in the first six weeks of the season as he registered five sacks, but again injuries plagued his season and when he did return he was on the opposite side of the field as Jason Worilds had cemented the left side of the defense in his stead.

    A lack of performance then leads to questions of whether Woodley should be retained or given his walking papers. What most Steelers fans fail to realize is that it isnít as simple as just tell Woodley that his services are no longer needed. No, it is much more complex than that. If the Steelers cut Woodley outright before June 1 he would be owed $14.7 million that would all count towards the 2014 salary cap. If the Steelers wait till after June 1 to release Woodley, the $14.7 million would be dispersed over two seasons and therefore make the cap hit less significant. Without getting into technicalities of contract stipulations, guarantees and other jargon it isnít a good contract for the Steelers to simply dump.

    However, what is the alternative? The Steelers could always keep Woodley and hope he performs better next season while staying healthy. They wouldnít be throwing money away by doing so, but that would also mean Worilds would be playing somewhere else next season. They could put the franchise tag on Worilds and cut Woodley, but that would cost the team nearly $20 million towards next seasonís salary cap. All of these factors just compound the simple fact that this decision has a huge impact on the Steelers as a team and franchise for the immediate future.

    In my opinion, the Steelers will only release Woodley if they are able to come to a contract extension with Worilds. If they are able to sign him to a new contract and move the numbers around to fit their salary cap needs, they could possibly afford to release Woodley and ultimately eat the millions he is owed this season. If they are unable to sign Worilds to a contract, I donít think the franchise tag is an option for the Steelers. They would then stick with Woodley and let Worilds test free agent waters.

    Itís a tough decision and one that could play a huge role in the Steelersí success in 2014, but itís one that needs to be made carefully.

    http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/0...FOp9ElDudDI.99

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    What Pittsburgh is missing is a locker room leader to " slap these guys around" when they get out of line. When Hines Ward left.....the inspiration of greatness went right out the door with him.

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    It's not out of the question to expect the Steelers to attempt to reduce the contract of LaMarr Woodley

    By Neal Coolong on Feb 17 2014



    The offseason chatter about contract moves would include a salary reduction or release offer to cornerback Ike Taylor. Why not make a similar kind of move for LaMarr Woodley in an effort to keep both he and Jason Worilds on the roster?

    Let's play Word(s) Association.

    Contract extension? Ben Roethlisberger.

    Free agent signing? Jerricho Cotchery.

    Salary reduction? LaMarr Woodley.

    Bet you thought the last one was Ike Taylor. It very well could be, but in all the speculation surrounding what looks to be another very active offseason in Pittsburgh, the topic of Woodley's contract is being interpreted in black and white. It's all or nothing for the eighth-year oft-injured pass rusher. He's not a candidate to accept less to avoid a release, according to the masses.

    General manager Kevin Colbert said it's possible the Steelers keep both Woodley and Jason Worilds - who's due a new contract, either from Pittsburgh or another team this offseason. A team can never have too many good pass rushers, after all. But the biggest problem the Steelers have had over the last three years is having too few of them.

    It seems the most sensible conclusion one can come to when analyzing all the information surrounding the contract positions of both edge rushers is Woodley will not play the 2014 season at the current rate of his contract. At the same time, the reasons Pittsburgh won't bring him back - a high financial price for a player borderline destined to miss at least half the season - are the very same another team would elect to not offer Woodley a huge deal if the Steelers released him.

    Cotchery suffered a similar fate in New York. The Jets released him in 2011, hoping to sign him back to a more team-friendly deal. He basically said if he was going to play for less than his contracted rate, he was going to do it for another team. He ended up signing a smaller deal to play for the Steelers, and finished out that contract this past season, after scoring a career-high 10 touchdowns.

    If the Steelers will keep Woodley, it would show an enormous amount of seemingly misguided faith in his ability to get back to the high-level production rate he was at early in his career. If they cut him, and use the cap space created to sign Worilds to a mid or long term deal, they will have paid two pass rushers for one spot on the depth chart.

    From a financial standpoint, considering they've already paid Woodley money that has to be accounted for on the cap, offering an incentive-laden deal while throwing away what's left on his contract would lower his cap number a bit while still keeping depth at the position. It'd be winner take all come training camp. That is, of course, assuming Woodley would accept such a deal. But perhaps they will explore that avenue before coming to the conclusion to give him his outright release.

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...-contract-2014

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    Comment From Go Steelers!
    Do you think the Steelers will draft another OLB high in this draft?

    Ed Bouchette: No, not high (first or second round)

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