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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoe View Post
    Exactly!

    The argument that we don't know as much as Lebeau, so we should STFU, is preposterous. I'm not questioning his knowledge. I'm questioning his ability to work the way a professional football coach these days is expected to work (work til exhaustion or heart troubles). I'm being facetious there, but that is the truth. Younger guys dropping like flies because their bodies can't keep up with the grind. It is very physically taxing profession... my gosh, look at the shoddy body profiles of these obese coaches. Yet we are supposed to ignore the fact that our guy is 77 years old?
    One, can you tell me how many hour a week he works? Is that enough in your judgment? Are the Rooneys, Tomlin, and the players satisfied with his effort? Secondly, the whole discussion is whether this seasons failures are due to LeBeau's schemes or defensive player talent. Many point out his schemes and discuss what he should be doing instead. Those are the commenters I am referring to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discipline of Steel View Post
    One, can you tell me how many hour a week he works? Is that enough in your judgment? Are the Rooneys, Tomlin, and the players satisfied with his effort? Secondly, the whole discussion is whether this seasons failures are due to LeBeau's schemes or defensive player talent. Many point out his schemes and discuss what he should be doing instead. Those are the commenters I am referring to.
    I can't (tell you how many hours he works). All I can say is that the guy is 76-years old, having to match wits with guys almost half his age. You know, it's obviously one of those dicey things: The guy is a legend, proven, and extremely beloved. At the same time, we must be realistic. You know why grandparents struggle as parents of young kids? Because they don't have the same patience, energy, flexibility of mind, that they once did. We can be politically correct and pretend that isn't the case, but we all know it to be true. In Lebeau's case, I think it is time for a shift... whether letting him retire gracefully, or give Butler more of a role (and shift Lebeau to a more advisory capacity).

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    Be careful what you wish for. I bet 85% of Steeler nation would trade Haley for Arians right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoe View Post
    Exactly!

    The argument that we don't know as much as Lebeau, so we should STFU, is preposterous. I'm not questioning his knowledge. I'm questioning his ability to work the way a professional football coach these days is expected to work (work til exhaustion or heart troubles). I'm being facetious there, but that is the truth. Younger guys dropping like flies because their bodies can't keep up with the grind. It is very physically taxing profession... my gosh, look at the shoddy body profiles of these obese coaches. Yet we are supposed to ignore the fact that our guy is 77 years old?
    There is a reason why a 77 yr old HOF coach doesn't need to "put in the hours". The guy knows his game, has seen it all. I work with guys that put in 70 hr weeks that are no more productive than talented guys working 40. In fact, throughout his coaching career, LeBeau has proven he can get more with less more than most coaches. Get the talent on D and all will be well again.

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    The 10 yd cushion looked great in the second half when the Bengals marched down the field not once but twice to make it a game.
    But i guess it's the players that aren't quick enough to defend the short pass.
    Thank god the Benglas had the dropsies in this game, may have been a different outcome.
    Perfect example was the AG Green bomb.
    Obvious double coverage with Troy over the top but let AG run free untouched as not to disturb the route.
    This way we can make it close with AG running in stride.
    Yes he is a HOF coach.
    All we hear is we respect DL, and the players are always defending him.
    Just because of his legendary status would anyone dare say something negative against him.
    Obviously not because it's always the players and the lack of talent.
    I love LeBeau, but let's give Butler a chance.
    Let him move on with his lifes work.
    Monty Kiffin is a defensive genius/guru also.
    How's that Dallas defense looking?

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    LOL. Worrying about his age and not being able to keep up with guys half his age is just plain rediculous. I know a few 80+ year olds, who are running multi-million dollar businesses and they operate at a much higher level and work more hours, etc., than some of their officers half their age. In reality, DL is the best DC out there, and you won't find a better DC anywhere else in the country. He's there until he retires..... Heck, he could be there for another 5+ years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pittpete View Post
    I love LeBeau, but let's give Butler a chance.
    Let him move on with his lifes work.
    What do you think his lifes work is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discipline of Steel View Post
    What do you think his lifes work is?
    Spending time with his family before he dies?
    With the amount of work a coordinator presumably puts in during the year, i'd think that would be it.
    Either that or take on another position within the organization.
    If Butler gets hired by another team and our defense is mediocre again next year, then what do we say?
    LeBeaus got a job for as long as he wants?
    Sorry, i just don't agree.
    But hey, it's only our opinions any way....

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    Earlier in the story:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Cook
    The Steelersí problem is personnel, not coaching. Thatís especially true with their defense, which has been so bad this season after being so good for so long. LeBeau still is one of the best defensive minds in the game. Itís not as if he started taking stupid pills a few months ago. His players still respect him ó adore him ó and play hard for him. The trouble is they arenít getting it done on the field. There is nothing wrong with LeBeauís schemes, but there are major problems with the execution of those schemes.

    Say it after me:

    ďThe players arenít good enough.Ē

    Later in the same story:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Cook, quoting LeBeau
    ďI donít think weíre far away. I really donít. I definitely donít think this defense needs rebuilt. I think we still have players who can get it done.
    Anybody else notice this? Hello?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradshawsHairdresser View Post
    Earlier in the story:


    Later in the same story:

    Anybody else notice this? Hello?
    This is what bothers me...

    Lebeau is untouchable tho so it's always someone else's fault.

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