i have minnesota being 19th overall in points allowed in 2005 (18th in pass, 22nd in run yards allowed)
14th in 2006 (31st in pass, 1st in run yards allowed)
12th in 2007 (31st in pass, 1st in run yards allowed)
13th in 2008 (18th in pass, 1st in run yards allowed)
it appears to me that the pass defense became the worst in the entire league and the run defense became the best the year he was there. two years later the vikings still had the best run defense but the pass defense improved greatly after tomlin left.
Try keeping up. I posted a picture of Switzer because he is very similar to Tomlin. Both inherited teams that had won a SB and then they won a SB with the previous coaches players. Kind of like John Gruden in Tampa Bay. Cowher didn't do that. So there is NO comparison. But thanks for trying.
Your FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD mentioned Cowher FIVE TIMES. You are in effect openning the Cowher vs Tomlin debate. YOU introduced Switzer situation as analogous to Tomlin. THEREFORE it is perfectly reasonable to make the solid point that Switzer who YOU liken to Tomlin BEAT Cowhers team.
You cannot now run and hide from the very figures YOU pulled into the conversation.
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
To label Cowher as "unable to win the big one" would have been premature. Time proved that.
How would "I" do it?
If you are going to compare a current coach to a retired coach who coached TWICE as long you look at their record during the same span:
It is SHOCKINGLY even IMHO. 1st 6 seasons:
Overall record.
Regular season: Cowher 64-32, Tomlin 63-33
Playoffs: Tomlin 5-3, Cowher 5-6
Division titles: Cowher 5, Tomlin 3
Playoff appearances: Cowher 6, Tomlin 4
Advance to divisional round of playoffs (final : Cowher 5, Tomlin 2
Record in AFC championship game: Tomlin 2 wins 0 losses, Cowher 1 win 2 losses
Super Bowl: Tomlin 1 win 1 loss, Cowher 0 wins 1 loss.
Inherited quality core players.
Cowher: Rod Woodson, Gregg Lloyd, Dermonti Dawson, Carnell Lake, Barry Foster, Eric Green
Tomlin: Ben Roethlisberger, Hines Ward, James Farrior, Aaron Smith, Heath Miller, Santonio Holmes
Last edited by Captain Lemming; 12-07-2013 at 07:49 PM.
In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
You can't be this daft? The article was comparing them. So I just show how stupid the comparison was. Every time someone talks about Tomlin they try to throw Cowher in there to justify their position. I DID NOT introduce it. The ARTICLE did. You can't be that stupid? Can you?
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