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    Breakdown of a unbalanced attack

    Week 1 - Titans vs Steelers

    33 Pass Attempts
    15 Rush Attempts

    Lost 16 - 9

    Week 2 - Steelers vs Bengals

    37 P/A
    16 R/A

    Lost 20 - 10

    Week 3 - Bears vs Steelers

    41 P/A
    21 R/A

    Lost 41 - 23

    Week 4 - Steelers vs Vikings

    51 P/A
    21 R/A

    Lost 34 - 27

    Week 5 - Bye
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    Week 6 - Steelers vs Jets

    35 P/A
    26 R/A

    Won 19 - 6

    Week 7 - Ravens vs Steelers

    34 P/A
    26 R/A

    Won 19 - 16

    Week 8 - Steelers vs Raiders

    P/A - 45
    R/A - 19

    Lost 21 - 18

    Week 9 - Steelers vs Patriots

    48 P/A
    20 R/A

    Lost 55 - 31

    Week 10 - Bills vs Steelers

    30 P/A
    33 R/A

    Won 23 - 10

    Week 11 - Lions vs Steelers

    45 P/A
    27 R/A

    Won 37 - 27

    Week 12 - Browns vs Steelers

    34 P/A
    34 R/A

    Won 27 - 11
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    Did you notice a trend here? When we had a more balanced attack, we won. When we went pass happy, we lost. It really is that simple. Yes, I know that different circumstances calls for passing, but we were never so far behind in any of those losses that we had to pass, except the 4th Q of the Cheatriots game.

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    Your point is justified if we have Adrian peterson as Running Back. Steelers running game sucks.

    Redman/Dwyer for first 4 games and you want to run more?? A bubble screen of 4 yards is as good as a run and Steelers deploy it heavily.

    Run-Run_pass-punt is a good offense when you are sitting on a big lead in 4th Q like in Brownies game but to run for the heck of it is plain stupid. They could not even get 1 yard in 2 attempts against Stains.

    Run attempts are less because Steelers RBs has done nothing. Blame it on O-line, play design or whatever...When your avg is 2-3 YPC i will never attempt to run unless i want to kill the clock or Defense is not stacking the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grotonsteel View Post
    Your point is justified if we have Adrian peterson as Running Back. Steelers running game sucks.

    Redman/Dwyer for first 4 games and you want to run more?? A bubble screen of 4 yards is as good as a run and Steelers deploy it heavily.

    Run-Run_pass-punt is a good offense when you are sitting on a big lead in 4th Q like in Brownies game but to run for the heck of it is plain stupid. They could not even get 1 yard in 2 attempts against Stains.

    Run attempts are less because Steelers RBs has done nothing. Blame it on O-line, play design or whatever...When your avg is 2-3 YPC i will never attempt to run unless i want to kill the clock or Defense is not stacking the box.
    IMO you have to run regardless to keep the D honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    IMO you have to run regardless to keep the D honest.
    You and SidSmythe got it right. If the D knows you're passing then they will defend the pass. If you throw a run in the play calling while the D is in pass pro. then thats when u get 15-20 yds

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    Quote Originally Posted by grotonsteel View Post
    Your point is justified if we have Adrian peterson as Running Back. Steelers running game sucks.

    Redman/Dwyer for first 4 games and you want to run more?? A bubble screen of 4 yards is as good as a run and Steelers deploy it heavily.
    Yup, have to agree with groton. It would be like having Deion Sanders at Corner, and playing a Cover-2.

    The current R/P ratio is more an effect than it is a cause.

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    I did notice this too during the game. the commitment to the run.

    Honestly as long as you're not losing yards, the running game is always your best game when you're O-Line isn't the greatest.
    Notice BEN never got sacked once??? why?? cuz Pass Rushers had to guess.
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    Not true. We won a couple with pass heavy play -- Detroit for instance.
    We simply dont have the running backs to rely too much on the running game. Even Leveon is only averaging 3.5 a rush.

    If we didn't have bonehead fumbles and ints (in the RZ too!), some of those losses would be wins. That wasn't on the balance of the attack; it was about getting the ball 8 yards from the EZ and then handing it over.
    Also, our D was burned as chad scott until the NE game. Then they seem to have turned things around a bit. Our O wasn't shining, but then a *lot* of our initial losses was on the D. If AB hadn't coughed up an int, we'd probably have 38 points in the NE game. And we'd *still* have lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonsteeler View Post
    Not true. We won a couple with pass heavy play -- Detroit for instance.
    We simply dont have the running backs to rely too much on the running game. Even Leveon is only averaging 3.5 a rush.

    If we didn't have bonehead fumbles and ints (in the RZ too!), some of those losses would be wins. That wasn't on the balance of the attack; it was about getting the ball 8 yards from the EZ and then handing it over.
    Also, our D was burned as chad scott until the NE game. Then they seem to have turned things around a bit. Our O wasn't shining, but then a *lot* of our initial losses was on the D. If AB hadn't coughed up an int, we'd probably have 38 points in the NE game. And we'd *still* have lost.
    I think we won with Detroit because we caught them off guard with the uptempo offense... pretty sure the Lions thought we would go run heavy due to the weather and our past wins with a high run total.

    Throw out the NE game because that was a shootout... but just about every other game was lost due to fumbles and INT's from our passing game.

    I think we also have to look at situational ball... what was our run to pass ratio in the first half? Did we run heavy in W's because we were chewing clock?

    Regardless, I think we need to continue to feed Bell to keep the LB's and D on their toes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonsteeler View Post
    Not true. We won a couple with pass heavy play -- Detroit for instance.
    We simply dont have the running backs to rely too much on the running game. Even Leveon is only averaging 3.5 a rush.

    If we didn't have bonehead fumbles and ints (in the RZ too!), some of those losses would be wins. That wasn't on the balance of the attack; it was about getting the ball 8 yards from the EZ and then handing it over.
    Also, our D was burned as chad scott until the NE game. Then they seem to have turned things around a bit. Our O wasn't shining, but then a *lot* of our initial losses was on the D. If AB hadn't coughed up an int, we'd probably have 38 points in the NE game. And we'd *still* have lost.
    Wrong, nice try though. It true 95% of the time this season. Thats enough for me to run the ball

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