Do we still think Haley is the problem?

**Vader** · 11-23-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Slapstick

Exactly. Tomlin took ownership of it...it doesn't mean that it was his idea or that he is a liar...

Yes, it means he LIED. He could have said that it was agreed upon that changes need to be made and left it at that. He doesn't have to answer specific questions with dead specific answers. Not only did he say he did it but he ADDED that the Rooney's had NO input AT ALL into either decision. He could have said he discussed it with them or some other vague answer. But he doesn't do that. He doesn't just take ownership of it, he owns it, drives it, and parks it.

So he is either a confident liar (saying something that isn't true) or he is a stand up guy and told the truth. There isn't another option.

**Slapstick** · 11-23-2013, 03:51 PM

Or, he's a stand up guy who fell on the grenade for his boss...

**costanza2k1** · 11-23-2013, 04:21 PM

Too often people like to take a complete unit like the team and split it into various parts. Teams encapsulated by the overall team. The teams are coaches, individual players, O vs D, special teams and so on. All these teams are created to assign blame or to reward dependent on the agenda. What people forget that all of the individual teams make up the Steelers and they win and lose as a team regardless of our agendas. As we dive deeper and deeper into these divided teams we are slowly becoming less fans of the overall team (Steelers). It's gotten to the point where people were still driving their agendas after SB wins...sad state to be in.

**Vader** · 11-23-2013, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Slapstick

Or, he's a stand up guy who fell on the grenade for his boss...

That's called a lie and he is a liar. There are no standup liars. It also makes no sense. So he is either a dumb liar or he is telling the truth. There was no reason to fall on any grenades. He could have just said it was an organizational decision and left it at that. But he goes out of his way to explain it and take 100% credit for it for NO reason.

**Slapstick** · 11-23-2013, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Vader

That's called a lie and he is a liar. There are no standup liars. It also makes no sense. So he is either a dumb liar or he is telling the truth. There was no reason to fall on any grenades. He could have just said it was an organizational decision and left it at that. But he goes out of his way to explain it and take 100% credit for it for NO reason.

Unless that is what his boss asked him to do...